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Hello anyone and everyone that wants to share!!!

              Nowadays that is an open invitation to people that have some sort of vendetta that might want to share their hatred of certain American made Hallmarks of quality, like Leupold scopes, but this is not the thread for them!!

              Just looking for some good homegrown recipes for shooting irons in the flavor of .223 Remington.  Anyone know of any? 

              The reason I am asking is that a friend of mine recently lost a Savage M111 (??)with a heavy bull barrel, plastic stock, that was more or less shooting a 1 hole group.  Or at least a lot of the shots were overlapping quite a bit so that you could not really tell the size of the bullet.., because this rifle was stolen from his house while he was out working.   Needless to say he was   beyond belief and is now having trouble getting the new replacement Savage with the factory clad CHOATE stock to give him the same sort of performance!!!     SO let this be a lesson to all of you would be snipers out there, just because it looks dangerous, and deadly, don't give it a thought, as those that scream and shout the loudest are sometimes the least of your worries.  The worrisome guy is the guy that does not say much or only whispers!!

           We've tried Reloader 19, Varget, IMR 4895, and do not know where to go from there.  You could PM me, if you have any good ideas of how to get this smoke pole to shoot better!   We have gone through all the concentricity gauges there are, and have used the Stoney Point to get the bullet out to that sweetspot near the lands and grooves, even reemed the primer pocket ;  but still are not getting the love we need to humanely kill off the scourge of Western Pa farmers, a.k.a.  Whistlepigs!!!

               Scott

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How well (or how badly) does it shoot?

 

Which bullets have you tried?  I think the new Savages have faster twist rates than old Savages.

 

Also, have you tried factory ammo at all? I've had good luck with Black Hills stuff.

 

ILya

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http://reloadersnest.com/frontpage.asp?CaliberID=18

Try this website out.

 

 

I like koshkin's idea of trying QUALITY factory ammo first.

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As I said, the bullet you are using can have tremendous effect.  Current Savages have a twist rate of 1 in 9 inches.  Older ones, I think were either 1 in 12 or 1 in 14.  It is entirely possible that heavier bullets will be more accurate in the current rifle than what you used in the old one.

 

For 1-in-9 twist rate, I think 60-69 grain bullets work best in my experience.

 

ILya

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I don't know much about shells but I know my dad shoots balck hills out of his .223 and we can kill a squirel at at least 300 yards.

     

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I've been having pretty good luck with 69gr Sierra Matchking BTHP, Lapua brass, CCI Bench Rest Primers, and 25.3gr of Varget.  I'm still working on this load .... next pass, I have 10 rounds each with seating clearances of .010, .020, and .030 .... after I see which of those works out best I'll start to try different weights of powder.  I still get flyers every now and then, but I haven't mic'ed out the neck wall thickness yet. (or turned them)  I do de-burr the flash-hole, and size the primer pocket.  I then sort the casings by weight .... Lapua is pretty close

so out of 100 I can have 80% plus within 3 grains of each other ... but like I said I haven't worked on the necks yet.

 

Low = 92.6  
High = 93.4  
Mean = 93.0 
Total Variation = .86%   
                          
Distribution    92.6 -  3
                     92.7 -  5
                     92.8 - 15
                     92.9 - 20
                     93.0 - 16
                     93.1 - 27
                     93.2 -  8
                     93.3 -  5
                    93.4 -  1
                 ----------------
                             100

I shoot them in a Savage 12 Varmint Low Profile .... no mods. 100 yards, Bushnell Elite 4200 6-24, Tripod front and sandbag rear .... "most" times I get 5 holes touching each other or pretty darn close ... I've had some groupings look like a single "fat" hole ... but like I said I do get some flyers ..... 

 

 

 

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