Visit the SWFA.com site to check out our current specials. |
Looking at 3 (possibly more) scopes |
Post Reply | Page 123 5> |
Author | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
CJarvis
Optics Apprentice Joined: January/19/2011 Location: OK Status: Offline Points: 128 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
Posted: February/17/2016 at 16:05 |
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I’m looking for a new scope in the $425-$525 range for deer
hunting, possibly up to 400 yards, but likely 300 or less. I want something
that has good low-light capabilities for shooting within that range in very
early/late light. I do not want to crank on turrets and I’m comfortable with
holding over, so optical qualities govern here.
The three scopes I’m considering off the top of my head are: Bushnell Elite 4500, 2.5-10 x 40 Meopta MeoPro, 3-9 x 42 Leupold VX-R, 3-9 x 40 I’ve considered the Vortex Viper line, but I don’t like the reticles. Zeiss is out due to bad experience with the Terra 3X line and the new Conquest HD line is out of budget. OK guys, let me have it… |
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
supertool73
Optics God Superstool Joined: January/03/2008 Status: Offline Points: 11814 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I would pick the VX-r if only for the illumination system. It is excellent and if low light is a priority, that puts it at the top IMO.
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.
"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything they don't own." |
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
cheaptrick
MODERATOR Joined: September/27/2004 Location: South Carolina Status: Offline Points: 20844 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I concur. I really like mine.
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
If at first you don't secede...try..try again.
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
CJarvis
Optics Apprentice Joined: January/19/2011 Location: OK Status: Offline Points: 128 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Thanks guys.
Is the Leupy glass really on par with the others? |
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Scrumbag
Optics Master Extraordinaire Joined: October/22/2013 Location: London, UK Status: Offline Points: 4205 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I'd plump for the Meopta myself. Have 1, thinking of another...
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Was sure I had a point when I started this post...
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
338LAPUASLAP
Optics Master Scope Swapper Joined: October/17/2009 Status: Offline Points: 2596 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
338LAPUASLAP
Optics Master Scope Swapper Joined: October/17/2009 Status: Offline Points: 2596 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
338LAPUASLAP
Optics Master Scope Swapper Joined: October/17/2009 Status: Offline Points: 2596 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This is the best deal for the money in my humble mind. The glass is on par with Swarovski.
The HHR is perfect for you. Hunter Hold oveR Riflescopes
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
supertool73
Optics God Superstool Joined: January/03/2008 Status: Offline Points: 11814 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Boy, my s2 big sky doesnt seem on par with my swaro. Its a good scope, but is much similar to the scopes in its direct price range imo. But i do really like the big skys. Excellent value imo.
The meopro probably does habe slightly better glass than the vx-r, but not by much. But the illumination system in the vx-r more than makes up for it imo. For low light shooting the vx-r is very good because of that. |
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.
"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything they don't own." |
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
338LAPUASLAP
Optics Master Scope Swapper Joined: October/17/2009 Status: Offline Points: 2596 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
american hunter type
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
338LAPUASLAP
Optics Master Scope Swapper Joined: October/17/2009 Status: Offline Points: 2596 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The el cheapo swaro not the high end...
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
CJarvis
Optics Apprentice Joined: January/19/2011 Location: OK Status: Offline Points: 128 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
So we're saying that the Sightron is roughly on level with the meopro, I'll order it this AM. Is my interpretation correct?
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
CJarvis
Optics Apprentice Joined: January/19/2011 Location: OK Status: Offline Points: 128 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ordered the Sightron. The Sightron SII Big Sky was one of Ilya's recommendations after I sent him my Zeiss Terra 3X to review, and at $350 for that scope, it seem like a good bargain.
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
supertool73
Optics God Superstool Joined: January/03/2008 Status: Offline Points: 11814 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
They are good scopes for sure. Good choice.
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Lifetime warranty and excellent customer service don't mean a thing when your gun fails during a zombie attack.
"A Liberal is a person who will give away everything they don't own." |
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
CJarvis
Optics Apprentice Joined: January/19/2011 Location: OK Status: Offline Points: 128 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I got the SII Big Sky this morning. (ordered thursday)
The scope was reasonably well packed and arrived safely. Externally, there are absolutely NO marks on the scope whatsoever. Other than any original padding that would’ve been in the box when it was shipped, you’d never know that the scope had been touched. At first glance, (pun intended) the glass looks very good, but I’ll know more when I get home and have a chance to compare it to my Leupold VX II, 3-9x40. I’ll also be looking closely at how visible the reticle is in low light as the HHR crosshairs are very fine. |
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
338LAPUASLAP
Optics Master Scope Swapper Joined: October/17/2009 Status: Offline Points: 2596 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Awesome.
Consider the ability to distinguish different distances and the same colors and the edge of tree branches at varying distances. Not just brightness and darkness... Discriminate.
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
RifleDude
MODERATOR EVIL OPPRESSOR Joined: October/13/2006 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 16337 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
There's no such thing, though I guess that's a relative term in the Swaro realm. The "el cheapo Swaro" (3-9X36 Z3) is a $20 bill shy of $800.00, and the only way they were even able to get it that "cheap" is to move assembly from Austria to the US. Optically speaking, the AV / Z3 series is nipping on the heels of their flagship 30mm stuff. Center field resolution and light transmission is virtually the same, given equivalent magnification. They're just "bare bones" in terms of options and mechanical features, they only have 3X zoom ratio, and they aren't as recoil-resistant as their 30mm brethren (traditional leaf springs rather than coil spring erector support), contributing to the lower price. I haven't spent much time with Sightron scopes, so I can't provide a valid comparison, but that would be amazing if they or any other scope in their price range were equivalent to Swaro Z3 series optically. I can tell you without hesitation that compared to any scope I've seen in the $350 - $600 price range, the Z3 series is noticeably superior optically, though maybe not mechanically.
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ted
Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle. |
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
338LAPUASLAP
Optics Master Scope Swapper Joined: October/17/2009 Status: Offline Points: 2596 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This was an early or late depending Habicht? MISTAKE RIFLEDUDE IS CORRECT I MADE A MISTAKE REPEAT AV NOT AH it was a Kahles AH.
Edited by 338LAPUASLAP - February/23/2016 at 10:21 |
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
RifleDude
MODERATOR EVIL OPPRESSOR Joined: October/13/2006 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 16337 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
The Swaro AV is the exact same scope as the current Z3. "AH" was a Kahles 1" scope series, not Swaro; Swaro never had a scope series called "AH." Between the previous generation AV and current Z3, only the name, minor aesthetics, and assembly location are different. Optically and mechanically, they are the same scopes. They changed the name from AV to Z3 only so that it followed the naming convention of their other lines, referencing the zoom ratios.
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Ted
Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle. |
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
CJarvis
Optics Apprentice Joined: January/19/2011 Location: OK Status: Offline Points: 128 |
Post Options
Thanks(0)
|
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I took a few peeks thru the Sightron and my leupold VX-II this evening. In full disclosure, I wasn't able to do so until after dark. That said, I looked at light colored objects from 50-300 yards away, with varying light levels. The Sightron is notably brighter, with better resolution than the Leupold, but the center of the crosshairs are just barely perceptible. I had no such problem with the Leupold. I'll give it another look in the morning and see if that makes a difference. I'm a bit underwhelmed at the moment.
|
||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Post Reply | Page 123 5> |
Tweet
|
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |