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Was planning on changing out the rings and bases on my newest toy for some regular weaver bases and zee rings. Well don't you know the pinhead previous owner must have read an article by some so called expert and loctighted then torqued the mount screws to where they are now immovable to any amount of decent pressure from an allen wrench. For the life of me there s/b a law that loctight and rifles should never be in the same room together. Now I have to go thru the hassle of heating up the screws or possibly having them drilled out. For the the uninitiated don't ever use loctight on a firearm. In 40 years of fooling around with guns I have never had a scope base come loose when snugged up even lightly, and I'll garuntee you that you stand a much higher chance of gun damage using loctight than not. The moral of this story is when your knuckles turn white you have gone too far and lay off the loctight. his has been a public service announcement.
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Too late....mine are firmly Locktite 'ed down. Half of us advocate this practise, the other half ( That had to undo this sh%t ) do not advocate it !!!
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I advocate it, a simple bit of heat before hand and they come right off, no big deal.  The added protection of it is worth it in my opinion, i do only use it on the bases though, not rings
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I use red loctite where I never intend to remove the mount.  I have used blue on rings without any detriment. However, I do not recommend SuperGlue...
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Taz glued his fingers together.... Bucky
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I use red on bases, but I never hardly ever touch the rings though. You can mess a gun/mount up pretty bad if not using the correct type of loctite. I have had some pretty bad before where the screws actually sparked once breaking loose. One time I had one that would not come loose with our torque wrench set at 75+ in lbs.
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  They do make a desolvent but I don't know if it would penetrate to the threads.  Tapping the screwdriver or a t-handle allen/torx wrench with a hammer can breakup the loctite to.

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Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

  They do make a desolvent but I don't know if it would penetrate to the threads.  Tapping the screwdriver or a t-handle allen/torx wrench with a hammer can breakup the loctite to.


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  That's not a hammer!  This is a hammer!
 
 
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Heat is the trick with loctite!
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  Yea,you can put a soldering iron on the head of the screw.  We used all three methods at work.
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Tried the tapping already to no avail so heat is the next step and as stated usually works, but it's an unnecessary aggrivation. I just have never had the need in all my years of fooling around with guns so I can't say I advocate loctights use and frankly if I knew that someone used the red or other higher strength versions I would probably not buy the rifle unless they had the bases removed before hand. My advice is if you have a rifle that is kicking so hard that it's losing the scope you need to take it to a gunsmith have him pull the barrel off and put on a new barrel chambered for a sane cartridge ;^).
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  That' a "B"!!   Try the soldering iron trick.  I just don't know if a disolvent would penetrate but you could try acetone.  GOOD LUCK!
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I loctite my bases, but not my rings... Never had a problem removing them yet. Heat is the key.
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Finally!! It took both some solvent and heat and some high torque but they finally came loose. Wow that guy must have thought that 6.5x55 was going to rip his head off. Seriously to all you newbies out there when you read articles where some gun hack begins giving mechanical advice about disassembling firearms , stoning triggers and loctighting screws, just gently turn the page and move on to another article. Those guys/ articles are responsible for damaging/destroying more nice guns than Sara Brady.
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   Excellent!!!!!!!!!!
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I loctite everything..... the stock bolts, the butplate screws. scopes.rings. bases, swivls studs.Nah just kidding. I do loctite base screws, Then I put a little powder resen on the rings and screw them down as one normaly would.

 

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Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

I loctite everything..... the stock bolts, the butplate screws. scopes.rings. bases, swivls studs.Nah just kidding. I do loctite base screws, Then I put a little powder resen on the rings and screw them down as one normaly would.

 

 
BD is just trying to use it all up as fast as possible so he can keep going back to the store for more....
 
 
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Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

I loctite everything..... the stock bolts, the butplate screws. scopes.rings. bases, swivls studs.Nah just kidding. I do loctite base screws, Then I put a little powder resen on the rings and screw them down as one normaly would.

 

 
BD is just trying to use it all up as fast as possible so he can keep going back to the store for more....
 
 
 
UMMM yeah!!!!!!!The girl on the right is tight!!!
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Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

I loctite everything..... the stock bolts, the butplate screws. scopes.rings. bases, swivls studs.Nah just kidding. I do loctite base screws, Then I put a little powder resen on the rings and screw them down as one normaly would.

 

 
BD is just trying to use it all up as fast as possible so he can keep going back to the store for more....
 
 
 
UMMM yeah!!!!!!!The girl on the right is tight!!!
The girl in the middle needs to eat something, she's skin and bones!
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

I loctite everything..... the stock bolts, the butplate screws. scopes.rings. bases, swivls studs.Nah just kidding. I do loctite base screws, Then I put a little powder resen on the rings and screw them down as one normaly would.

 

 
BD is just trying to use it all up as fast as possible so he can keep going back to the store for more....
 
 
 
UMMM yeah!!!!!!!The girl on the right is tight!!!
The girl in the middle needs to eat something, she's skin and bones!
 
The girl on the left has me glued to my seat !!!
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Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

I loctite everything..... the stock bolts, the butplate screws. scopes.rings. bases, swivls studs.Nah just kidding. I do loctite base screws, Then I put a little powder resen on the rings and screw them down as one normaly would.

 

 
BD is just trying to use it all up as fast as possible so he can keep going back to the store for more....
 
 
 
UMMM yeah!!!!!!!The girl on the right is tight!!!
The girl in the middle needs to eat something, she's skin and bones!
 
The girl on the left has me glued to my seat !!!
 
I guess you could say your "loctited" to it. I didn't know they made stuff for the purpose.
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Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

Originally posted by 8shots 8shots wrote:

Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:

I loctite everything..... the stock bolts, the butplate screws. scopes.rings. bases, swivls studs.Nah just kidding. I do loctite base screws, Then I put a little powder resen on the rings and screw them down as one normaly would.

 

 
BD is just trying to use it all up as fast as possible so he can keep going back to the store for more....
 
 
 
UMMM yeah!!!!!!!The girl on the right is tight!!!
The girl in the middle needs to eat something, she's skin and bones!
 
The girl on the left has me glued to my seat !!!
 
I guess you could say your "loctited" to it. I didn't know they made stuff for the purpose.
 
They are holding big enough cans !!!
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sheesh, i'm just waiting for gorilla glue to make a lock tite variant. 
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Well this thread veered into the ditch pretty quick though it wasn't really worthy of much discussion anyway.
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