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Hi All,

   I just got a remmy Ti in 308 and am trying to choose a scope. My criteria are:

 

lightweight..its the point of this rifle. say 11 ounces max, 10 would be better

 

size..reasonably compact..

 

big usable eye box..good noncritical eye relief. I would like the rifle quick to shoulder etc

 

manification between 2-9x. fixed or variable is ok. I mostly hunt woods where 20-80yd shots are the norm but I would like to have the magnification to shoot to the range I feel comfortable...300yds

 

Price..not to steep lets say SWFA pricing under $400.

 

One scope under consideration is the leupy FXII 4x33

 

What other should I look at?



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The FXII would be a very good choice. It is light, has good optics and is very durable. It would look good on your rifle to boot.

 

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How bout the Weaver Grand Slam 3-10?  But it is 13 oz.

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Since your main theme is to keep your scope as light weight as possible and follow in your rifle`s footsteps, then I would go with the Leupold light weight or ultra lite VX11 in a 3x9........Off the top of my head, I can`t think of a lighter 3x9 variable. I`m in agreement with Tahqua! 
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VX II glass sucks.

 

Go Weaver Grand Slam. 

 

I can say this because I owned the VX II and I own the Grand Slam.  You are hard pressed to beat the vlaue of the GS.

 

Go look at the optics quality threads on this site. 

 

You need to go to a store that has these in stock and look thru them.

 

Scopes are like cars.  You can't make a good decision on the published metrics.  You must test drive. 

 

It is an expensive lesson.

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you do realize that your better quality scopes weigh more due to better glass just something to think about, maybe sacrificing a few ounces of scope weight to gain better quality scope the 3x9 bushnell elite 4200 comes in at 13 oz and thats a pretty good scope.



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Noknees..........................Army_ eod does bring up an interesting point there. The VX11`s are not going to give you greatest glass of which I should have mentioned earlier. You basically pay more for Leupold as opposed to other scopes which are better for less money........So! You may have to make a compromise between size/weight and optic quality. The Weaver Grand Slam previously mentioned is a good scope for the money. I`ve seen them.........However, the Elite 4200`s optic quality, Rainguard which really works in any weather, its construction & durability, IMHO, is the best scope on the market for the money & will give you a lifetime of excellent service......I have one! But, my 3 x 9 weighs 13 oz. & is 12.6" long. That may not work for you though.................You may need to do some homework on this one!
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I have a Bushnell Elite on a Ti 270. Size and weight is about right, but the "eyebox" on this scope does not compare to the fixed Leupold you mentioned. Your eye position is very critical on the Bushnell compared to the Leupold. I am considering switching to this:  http://www.swfa.com/pc-3618-94-leupold-6x42-fx-iii-riflescop e.aspx
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Noknees,

What about the Leupold VX-III 1.75-6X32? 

http://www.swfa.com/pc-3345-307-leupold-175-6x32-vx-iii-rifl escope.aspx

It weighs right at 11oz., has better optics than VX-II, is priced at your max limit, and is a very compact scope.  It lacks a little on upper magnification compared to today's trends, but really 6X is plenty for most big game hunting, and a super light rifle isn't usually a good long range rig anyway.  Leupold isn't generally my first brand choice either, but I have a couple of these scopes, and I love them on compact rifles.  This happens to be one of those areas where I think Leupy has a niche.  In my view, this particular scope is one of the lesser known gems out there for use with super light rifles because it balances decent optics with extreme compactness and reasonable cost, which is really hard to find.  My other favorite super light "mountain rifle" scope is the Swaro AV 3-9X36 which weighs slightly more than the VX-III 1.75-6, but is also priced at more than 2X your budget.  In general, I do not like so-called "compact" scopes, as they typically come with some serious optical tradeoffs in FOV, eye relief, and optical aberrations.  These two scopes are compact without the "compact scope" optical problems. 



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I do agree that leupold does extract a price for its optics. On the rare ocasion that I purchased a Leupold I always figured I was paying for good customer service and a big eye box. . My only current leupies are a 6x42 and a 2.5x8x36 VXIII. I have no complaints optically and the 2.5x8 could work pretty well on the Titanium. I haven't seen a fxII 4x33 in person. How would it compare to a burris fullfield at 4x? Or a burris signature at the same magnification?

 

I have 4200 3x9 and its quite good opically but the eye relief is pretty critical for a rifle that I will be carring around and may need to shoulder quickly.

 

If I increase my weight limit to say 12.5 oz.. There are lots of great scopes availible.

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if eye relief is your major concern then the zeiss conquest is what you need constant 4" eye relief
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In the 11 oz. weight, $400 and less price range category, I truly believe the VX-III 1.75-6X32 is your best option.  All other "compact" variables either lack optical performance, weight more, have too critical ER, cost more, or don't have more than 4-5X upper magnification.  However, other than just looking at "paper" specs, I honestly doubt you'd notice any difference between a 11 oz and a 13 oz scope on your rifle.

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4553 Kahles 2-7x36 American Hunter 51643, Matte finish, one inch tube, plex reticle, fast focus eye piece, light ring marks $449.95

 

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RifleDude,

  I do like the look of the 1.75x6x32.. also in that same class is the 2.5x8x36..Both are nice scopes.  If I go through with a variable Leupie the advantage is I won't have to buy a new scope. I have a 2.5x8 on an unused rifle and I have a Nikon 3x9 monarch that I bought on closeout..so I could put the Nikon on the other rifle and free up the 2.5x8 for the titanium. The bonus being with the $400 I save I can almost pay for the next step in the project.. A new barrel after this season.

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Understand completely, Noknees.

 

If you can up the ante a little, U-frnd's suggestion of the Kahles AH 2-7X36 is a great option.  It weighs about 12.5 oz., and even at the Sample List price, it's a little over your budget, however it's a wonderful little scope!  Definitely better optically than any Leupold, and the price is very good since that is a discontinued model.  It is approx the same length as the Leupold, so it's pretty compact.

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I am still mulling this over.. and then I thought Sightron makes a SII 4X.. its light and I hear good things about sightron. I haven't ever seen one in person.

 

How does it compare to the leupold 4x33 FX-II? 

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