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I'm looking for a really good low light scope to put on my muzzleloader. There are some nice deals on these 2 scopes right now. Wondering if someone can compare glass, eye box, retical, low light etc....

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Sorry, wish I was familiar with either.
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I’m sure Ilya can answer the question. Check opticsthoughts.com that’s Ilya’s web site.

Should have also said I have an ERi 2.5-10X42 4A reticle and it's great at dark thirty like Taqua said.


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Minox HD5, not heard of that scope.
The Leica is an excellent low light scope. I have a 3.5-14x42 and with that objective I have no problems in legal hunting light. The contrast is great as I can easily take a shot at a deer standing in thick cover at dark thirty.
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I have the Leica ER 2.5-10x42 with 4a, probably the best scope I own out of all my alphas.
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I have an ER5 3-15X56 4A and can sit really late. It’s better than my NF’s or Trijicons as far as glass but isn’t illuminated, not too far off from my S&B Stratos. For the $650 I got in it, it’s a helluva bargain.
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ER/ERi is better than ER5, but the 2-10x50 ER5 I have is no slouch in low light either.

I have not had it did by side with the Minox ZA5 HAD, but I expect the ER5 to be better based on my recollection. It is also a bit easier to get behind.

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I have a minox ZA5 that is freaking awesome in low light. 


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I'm also wondering what the difference between the ZA and ZX line is for Minox?
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Originally posted by BigGameBalls BigGameBalls wrote:

I'm also wondering what the difference between the ZA and ZX line is for Minox?

ZX is better and a bit more consistent across the FOV.  A little easier to get behind as well, I think.

To me thr basic ZX optical design seemed related to the higher end ZEi.

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All 3 scope lines in question compared to leupold VXR line as far as low light glass and general hunting scope?
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Optically, all three are better than VX-R.

As a hunting scope, that depends on what you like.

You really need to settle on how much money you are wiling to spend and how quickly you need to buy.  I have seen Leica ERi 2.5-10x42 for around $1k multiple times recently (Leica is rebranding it as Visus, so older stock ERi is often discounted).

That is a better hunting scope than everything that has been mentioned here so far.

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I tend to only buy things that are selling at a discount. My scope search ususlly starts with what can i get a screaming deal on. Not necessarily a budget. Lot of minox amd lecia scopes on sale right now which is why i started this thread in the first place.

It's going on a hard kicking muzzle loader used to hunt mostly nocturnal bucks. Any evening shot i get on a shooter will be at the end of legal light. Identifying which deer I'm shooting and being able to see retical are most important. Ideally a 3- 9x50 with lit retical and the best low light coatings and glass money can buy would be thst target. 3.75 - 4 inches eye relief is pretty critical.

Scope on the gun now is a burris euro diamond 1.5 -6 x40 with getman 4.
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I have an illuminated scope on my crossbow, albeit a cheap one, and I do not like it in low light. 

My Minox is good in low light. I have a Zeiss Duralyt that is good, and both my Nikon Monarch's are. Especially the 50mm one. 

I am all for a deal, but about as low as I want to be on a scope is a Leupold VX-1, the new ones. They are multicoat 4, which was VX 3 a few years back. I think a nikon monarch is hard to beat for the money. 

I sit in the woods until its dark 30, plus some. Especially when the moon is out. Biggest problem then is shooting a "doe" and it turning out to be a spike. 3 buck limit here, don't want to waste it on that..,

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Originally posted by BigGameBalls BigGameBalls wrote:

I tend to only buy things that are selling at a discount. My scope search ususlly starts with what can i get a screaming deal on. Not necessarily a budget. Lot of minox amd lecia scopes on sale right now which is why i started this thread in the first place.

It's going on a hard kicking muzzle loader used to hunt mostly nocturnal bucks. Any evening shot i get on a shooter will be at the end of legal light. Identifying which deer I'm shooting and being able to see retical are most important. Ideally a 3- 9x50 with lit retical and the best low light coatings and glass money can buy would be thst target. 3.75 - 4 inches eye relief is pretty critical.

Scope on the gun now is a burris euro diamond 1.5 -6 x40 with getman 4.

You still need a budget.  Personally, if you can find a Leica ERi in the $1k range, it is a raging bargain for an absolutely world class hunting scope.

ILya
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