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I found an absolutely stunning 29 year old Browning Auto Rifle in 30-06.  Lord, they did some fine Blueing and wood work back then.  Naturally, I bought it.  It has iron sights and presently has a 3x9 Armscote scope mounted in a kwik site type mount allowing a view of the iron sights and the scope.  I am not too sure that is the best way  to go nowadays.  I definately need to replace the scope.  I  called Leupold customer service to inquire of their quick release mounting system.  They said they work great and when reinstalled are quite accurate.  I think  the QR might be a good solution to allow me to mount a good scope and if I ever wish to use the iron sights, I could simply take the scope off.  What do you experts think?

 

Also, was looking to mount either a Leupold 4.5 - 14 x40 (or x50 illuminated) VX-III or the Zeis conquest equivalent.  I am getting old and my eyes need all the help they can get!  Please advise.  I don't want to do an injustice to this fine old rifle.

 

Thanks.

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I like QR rings. Almost everything I own has them in some configuration.

 

Talley's are very good and strong. You may want to look at the Talley aluminum rings.

Chris Farris, the owner of this site and SWFA likes them very much.

 

Scopes........Zeiss Conquest.

IMHO, it beats the VXIII.

Fixed eye relief and a laser etched reticle are nice features that the Conquest has and the VXIII doesn't. 

Both are good products and will serve you well. 

 

Does the Loopy have a 30mm or 1" tube??

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My mouth was watering and my eyes got blurry after the 1st line!   Please post a pic when you GIT-R-DONE!!!

I looked thru a Conquest 3-9X40 this week and will own one sooner or later....hopefully sooner !  Didn't look thru the 4.5-14, but I'm sure its just as good or better. 

 

Most but not all of the folks on this site think Luepolds are a little overpriced.  Now this doesn't mean they aren't any good, just they charge more.  If money isn't a factor for you......... figure out which you like the best by "looking" thru them both under the same conditions.  You are talking about quality products, so you won't be dissappointed from that standpoint.

 

Did I mention I'd like to see a pic? 

 

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The Zeiss has good glass but the fact is there are several reasons that I strongly prefer the Leupold VXIII 4.5-14X50 with 30mm tube which has 100 MOA internal adjustment, and has a selection of reticles including the Boone & Crocket and the Varmit which give known hold over and wind estimate hold positions which make it far far better to hunt with, plus I like the side focus much better. Leupold has two quick release systems one mounts to weaver style base the other uses a post and cam. I recently had one of the post and cam system bases fail after having used this system on numerous rifles for years. I guess everything mechanical can break. Badger rings $ are the best rings but any semi auto will not give the kind of accuracy that a highly accurised bolt gun will give so you may want to shoot it first to see how it groups then decide if it is accurate enough to where you want to put a scope of that expense on it or just a nice but far less expensive fixed 6x42 Nikon Monarch or Leupold which might be appropriate for that era of rifle. A lot of what you put on it goes to how you intend to use it. If it is to be your primary hunting rifle spend more on the scope, if you are just completing the rifle and using it occasionally as a fun part of your collection a good fixed 6x42  in leupold  rings and base might be a nice touch.
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Great advice, thanks.  The gun will be one of two hunting rifles for me.  It shoots  nice and will print a 1&1/4 inch group at 100 yards with the 3-9 power.  I think I can easily improve on that with a little more magnification and clarity.  So, I think the gun is worthy of a great scope.  I think I'll contact Talley as I know they are great and I have them on my  EB 300 WinMag.  Maybe a visit to my local Bass Pro shop will aford me the opportunity to evaluate the several candidates you all have suggested.

 

I'll send pics as soon as I can find my dang camera and figure out how to post them.  I think you'll like it.

 

Thanks again for the help!

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BE ADVISED!!!!!

 

You can get all your optics and rings/mounts right here, friend!!

SWFA is the BIGGEST optics dealer on planet earth.

Not to mention SWFA has Stephanie, the Optics Goddess.

What more do you want???   

 

http://www.riflescopes.com/departments/67/mounts/talley_moun ts.htm

 

http://www.riflescopes.com/departments/259/rifle_scopes/zeis s_rifle_scopes/zeiss_conquest_rifle_scopes.htm

 

http://www.riflescopes.com/departments/2/riflescopes/leupold _hunting_riflescopes.htm

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I was indeed intending to purchase from SWFA, just didn't realize you had a Goddess.

 

I'll call Goddess Stephanie and she what she suggests.

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Originally posted by HELLFIREman HELLFIREman wrote:

I was indeed intending to purchase from SWFA, just didn't realize you had a Goddess.

 

I'll call Goddess Stephanie and she what she suggests.

 

Roger.

 

I like to go to Bass Pro or some other place and look over a scope.

But, with SWFA's 110% price guarantee, I would be foolish to buy anywhere else.

 

Tell The Optics Goddess, that cheaptrick sent ya!! 

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Going with the Zeis 4.5-14 x 44 Conquest with QR Talley mounts and rings.

 

Thanks all for the advise.

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Originally posted by HELLFIREman HELLFIREman wrote:

Going with the Zeis 4.5-14 x 44 Conquest with QR Talley mounts and rings.

 

Thanks all for the advise.

 

Outstanding selection!  You are going to be very happy with the setup.

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I would have to agree with a lot of these other posts; Zeiss in a 3-9 and Talley rings.  I am switching most of my hunting rigs over to the new Talley lightweight aluminum one piece ring/base combination setups!  For what you have I don't see where you need much more magnification than this.
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