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A few years ago I owned a set of Pinnacles (made in Japan). Very good optics for the money.

 

I'm considering purchasing a set of them for my son as a gift. I've heard they are now manufactured in China and their quality has really declined. Is this true?

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I have not heard of any "decline in quality."
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I called Leupold & asked the person in Technical Services where the Pinnacles are being made & she would only say that they are coming out of Asia.
When I tried to get a more precise location she said, that information was not available to her.

I have contacted Leupold several times in the past few months & they have been tight-lipped about answering consumer questions over the telephone. There is a seeming reluctance to give any 'significant' information out to the public. (or is it that people in Oregon just aren't very warm & friendly to start with?)



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I have two of them (8x42) made in Japan, purchased this spring. I have these comments:

they are outstanding binoculars (for $400) when it comes to quality, sharpness, brightness, feel, balance, weight, color correction, color rendition, etc. Really nice.

Here is what i don't like about them:

1. the nice view is only for the center of the field of view. The outer 50% of the field is so distorted that it makes me seasick and my brain perceives the image as shaking even though it is not. Because of distortions, the field of view seems restricted.

 2. The winged eyecups are made of metal, well built, and solid, but their size and shape does not fit every face. They are very uncomfortable for me. I use the alternative pair of eyecups provided (they screw in and out),which are comfortable, of perfect shape and size, and work well with or without eyeglasses. Problem is, they are kind of cheesy plastic and will break as soon as i bump them.  

3. For a 8x, the field of view is nothing to write home about.

4. The optics have good coatings and stray light seems well controlled, but the coatings are unbelievably difficult to clean.  It takes several moist optics towels and several passes to clean these things, as if the coatings are sticky or something. 

Otherwise, i would say that they are ok.Considering that they are waterproof and backed by a company with good reputation, not too bad.

Note: the view through the 10x42 may be better, or worse.

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Field of view for the 10x42 drops down to 267' vs. 341' for the 8x42.

Exit Pupil drops from 5.3mm in the 8x42 down to 4.3mm in the 10x42.

Eye Relief goes from 17.8mm in the 8x42 down to 16.6 in the 10x42.


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As an ardent fan of 10x magnification, let me suggest that:

 

The reduction in eye relief is not likely to be a problem unless the user wears very thick eyeglasses. 

 

Unless the user is planning on trying to view things in extremely dark conditions, the reduction in exit pupil is not going to be particularly significant for two reasons:

  1. The 4+mm exit pupil is sufficient to cover the typical "1/2 hour before sunrise to 1/2 hour after sunset" shooting light restrictions and/or hunting under a dense, dark canopy or in bad weather.
  2. Any light "lossed" is compensated for by the increase in magnification.

The drop in FOV is definately a problem. The 315' FOV of my 10x Elite is not bad but, it is definately the limit as far as how narrow I would care to go. The 341 ft. FOV from my 10x porro prism Discoverer is very nice indeed.  267' is just way too narrow and for this reason alone, I would be unwilling to by a 10x Pinnacle.

 

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Thanks lucznik,

I like to put the spec's out for those guys who don't happen to have them available at their fingertips.

Anything to save alittle time.
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