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Hi all, this is kind of a follow up to a previous post I made regarding the Leupold 2x7 Ultralight.  Thanks so much for puuting up with all my questions, just trying to figure things out here. As I said before, deer hunting here consists of running shots and standing shots out to 200yds.
 
Here's the scoop, I have a 2x7 Ultralight mounted on my Ruger M77 Ultralight (.308).  It's a darn good scope, but the problem I have is, I have to move my head forward a bit to get a good sight picture.  Would going to the 3x9 help this problem?  Would I really gain anything by going to a 3x9 with a 33mm opposed to the 2x7 with a 28mm objective?
 
Is there any other mounting system for a Ruger M77 that would allow for the scope to be moved back? 
 
I'm all ears!!!
 
Thanks again for all your help!!
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Cut the stock to fit?  Have you given thought to a scout scope?
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Hi Silver, cut the stock!!  Not a bad idea, I cut the stocks on a lot of my SxS's to get my LOP.  Didn't even think of this one!!  Thanks!!!
 
All the best!
 
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Short scope with only 3" of eye relief at 7X.  Ruger rings are a compromise for such short scope adjustment, not much latitude of rearward movement.
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Originally posted by gjw gjw wrote:

Hi all, this is kind of a follow up to a previous post I made regarding the Leupold 2x7 Ultralight.  Thanks so much for puuting up with all my questions, just trying to figure things out here. As I said before, deer hunting here consists of running shots and standing shots out to 200yds.
 
Here's the scoop, I have a 2x7 Ultralight mounted on my Ruger M77 Ultralight (.308).  It's a darn good scope, but the problem I have is, I have to move my head forward a bit to get a good sight picture.  Would going to the 3x9 help this problem?  Would I really gain anything by going to a 3x9 with a 33mm opposed to the 2x7 with a 28mm objective?
 
Is there any other mounting system for a Ruger M77 that would allow for the scope to be moved back? 
 
I'm all ears!!!
 
Thanks again for all your help!!
....................I do remember your other thread making a couple of posts. As I remember, you were inquiring about a 2x7 Ultralite but didn`t know you already had one. 
 
There are two problems with the 2x7 Ultralite mounting on your Ruger.
 
The first problem is that its mounting tube length is too short at only 4.75".... That length hardly leaves any adjustment room between the bells to move your scope back towards you which will eliminate stretching your neck.
 
Along with having too short a mounting tube length, your second problem is this scope`s shortened eye relief of only 3" when set on 7x. The more you magnify, the more you need to stretch your neck. On 2x, this scope`s eye relief is 3.8 inches, in which you won`t need to stretch your neck quite as much. If you want to keep the 2x7 Ultralite scope on your rifle, the only way to solve your problem is to cut the stock down a little as was mentioned. You can`t bring the scope closer to you, so you must get closer to the scope by reducing the rifle`s LOP.
 
Do not change or alter the Ruger scope ring mounting set-up. What you don`t want to do is get offsetting rings (if available for the Ruger), that will protrude over the action. Although they will bring your scope rings closer together, they are ugly and can be somewhat restrictive when it comes to loading and ejecting. With the exception of the scope tube, keep all the space directly over your action`s length completely clear.
 
I can understand your choice of the Ultralite scope on your Ultralite rifle. It keeps your rifle light weight. However, the drawback to this scope is its shorter mounting tube length, which will now in turn, cause you to either shorten the stock or get another scope.
 
A 3x9 scope with MORE mounting tube length for eye relief adjustment, will solve the problem.  However, for running shots at 100 yards and standing shots out to only 200 yards as you have stated, a 3x9 would not be my first choice in magnification. I explained why on your other thread and also why either a 1-4x20 VX2 or a 1.5-5x20 VX3 would make  better choices than the 2x7 or a 3x9 you`re now maybe considering.
 
BTW! Those two lower variable scopes will not only give you more mounting tube length, but they`ll also offer better eye relief too, especially on the high magnification. Plenty of eye relief adjustment for both. 
 
 
 
  
 
  
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Thanks so much Big Squeeze, I appreciate your thoughtful comments.  I was wondering if this is the scope of which you speak:
 
 
Thanks!!
 
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Alternatively, if you are comfortable with the 2-7x magnificaiton range, you could simply get a different 2-7x scope that willl offer more mountin goptions and better eye relief.  There are a few good options out there that are quite a bit cheaper than the VX-3 1.5-5x20 and offer much better low ligh tperformance to boot.  I would take a good hard look at Vortex Viper 2-7x32 or Nikon Monarch 2-8x32.  Either one can be had for around $300 or just under.

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Originally posted by gjw gjw wrote:

Thanks so much Big Squeeze, I appreciate your thoughtful comments.  I was wondering if this is the scope of which you speak:
 
 
Thanks!!
 
Greg
.........That`s the one!.............Koshkin is also correct with his last post. There are lesser expensive 2x7s out there. Also, let me be clear that there is nothing wrong with a 2x7 for the type of hunting you will do. Nothing wrong using a 3x9 or a 4.5x14 either. You`ll adapt either way. If you change scopes, make sure you have more mounting tube length.
 
However imo, with wider FOVs and with both eyes open capability for better acquiring speed at moving game, the lower powered variables are better for your type of shorter ranged hunting out to 200 yards. 
 
If you are going to be doing open plains hunting at longer ranges the majority of the time, then a 2x8, 2.5x8, or a 3x9 would make good choices. But then on the other hand, even for my longest of open plains kill shots (deer sized animals and larger), I`ve never needed more than 5x or 6x anyway. And as I stated before on the other thread, many if not most experienced hunters when hunting, will not exceed 5x or 6x even for their longest of shots. 
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