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I am going to be buying a 30-06 A-Bolt Stainless Stalker in the near future.  I hunt deer in PA and am looking at getting a 4-12x40 Leupold scope for this rifle.  Is there a big difference between the XV-I and the XV-II besides about 150 dollars?  If anyone has any other suggestions on scopes, please feel free to share it.
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Oh man, where to start...

 

Yeah, I think you'll get a LOT of suggestions for scopes to consider beside Leupold!  It's not that Leupold is bad or inferior.  It's just that Leupold is no longer a very good value when you consider price and optical quality.  Many other manufacturers now match Leupold's warranty with better glass at a lower price.

 

I'll start.  How much are you looking to spend?  For under $500 with similiar magnification & objective size (to the Leupold models you listed) I think all of these scopes are superior to the VX-I and VX-II:

1) Bushnell Elite 4200;

2) Burris Signature Select;

3) Nikon Monarch;

4) Weaver Grand Slam;

5) Zeiss Conquest

 

 

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I'm not very familar with PA..... wouldn't think you "need" a 4-12.  If you just have your heart set on one, that's ok, but you could get much better quality 3-9.  If you can go with the 3-9, look at the Bushnell 4200 Elite...its only about $258 which is less than the VX II and has better lenses. Or the Zeiss 3-9X40 is $399.

 

If you want a 4-12, go with what ceylonc recommends! 

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IF you want a Leupold, then get a Leupold.  You won't be sorry.  But, get the best one you can afford.  I agree with the suggestion above that you go with a lower power, unless you'll be shooting 400-500yds.
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A friend of mine also brought up the possibility of getting a Nikon scope.  I was looking at something from the Buckmaster series.  Can anyone provide some input on Nikon scopes? 
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I think they were updated this year, so if you get one, make sure its a 2006 model!  They are a decent scope.  I have an older 3-9X40 and like it.  Its comparable to the VX II, but usually costs about $100 less.  They don't have as much eye-relief as the Leupolds and I don't think their CS is as good.  Like Mwyates says........ if you like the Leupolds and don't mind the price.. go for it.  The VX II is better then the VX I......... weather its $150 better is kind of up to you.  The best way to compare is to look thru them under the same conditions..... not just in the store.  Try to look at them in the evening.... on cloudy days........ as well as sunny days.  If you can't tell much of a difference, no need in paying more.  If you do see a difference, you will need to decide if its worth the difference in the price.

 

Do a search for "T-bone Rating Scale" it gives a decent rating of where most scopes fall.  A wise man on this forum told me that as you go up in price the "law of diminishing returns" becomes more true.  There is a BIG difference between a scope that costs $150 and one that costs $400, but there isn't as big a difference between one that costs $600 and $800, at least its harder to see the difference!

 

Hope this helps. 

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Nikon Monarch or Monarch gold is what you want in the Nikon line.

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This is much better glass and reasonably priced for what you get plus has a useful reticle.

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Not to beat a dead horse here but for the money there are scopes out there that provide better optics at less money then the Leupold. Again, Leupold makes a dam fine scope and they have great eye relief if it is going on a real kicker.

 

Yes, I think there is a difference between the VXII and VXI. Personally, I would not look below a VXII scope from Leupold. 


As far as Nikon is concerned the Buckmaster is a great buy especially the newer model.  The Monarch is worth the extra money in my opion.  Just some thoughts check out the store here and look at Burris, Nikon Weaver Grand Slam (my personal favorite for the money) and Pentax (basically a Burris scope with a different label) Also the Bushnell 4200 Elite is an AWSOME scope and the Zeiss Conquest In my opion provides about the best opics out there to beat it you will have to spend a lot more money.

Also welcome to the forums..and happy shooting

 

 

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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

 A wise man on this forum told me that as you go up in price the "law of diminishing returns" becomes more true.  There is a BIG difference between a scope that costs $150 and one that costs $400, but there isn't as big a difference between one that costs $600 and $800, at least its harder to see the difference!

 

Very true. 

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thank you everyone for the help.  I'll post when I have come to a decision and have the scope mounted.


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