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I am very impressed with the new Leupold VXR Firedot line of scopes…

Glass is right there with the Trijicon Accupoints, a scope line I am very familiar with and are universally well regarded for glass quality and low light hunting usefulness.

Clear glass and a properly done dot that i can be just bright enough to contrast against the target without being so bright it overpowers your view like a lot of scopes are.

In general, I really like these new Leupolds, they have made noticeable improvements in glass and I put these VXRs as good if not better than the Mark 4s made in the last year.

They don’t have the twilight lens coatings but are the only ones to use their new lead free glass.  Great clarity and resolution.

This review for the 1.24-5 features:

    * Exposed mil turrets with 6 mils per revolution, 3 total.
    * SPR reticle, same as the Mark 4 1.5-5 has had, 10Mil circle with has marks at 2.5mils
    * 30mm tube
    * reticle is nice and bold and well defined
    * push-buttom illumination, flashes at both maximum and minimum settings and cycles through
    * compact and light

Ok, enough talk about features, how does it work in the field?

One thing that I think will hurt their sales is the lack of a true 1x at the bottom, but in all honesty,  I don’t think that should be a show stopper.  Now, would I use this for a home defense optic? probably not, I would prefer to run and do run and Aimpoint T1.  Outside of say 10 yards I don’t have any issues with engaging multiple targets fast.  It’s not finicky on eye relief and feel I can get on target very fast and easy.  The circle is fast and the illuminated dot gets PLENTY bright even if bright Texas noon sun.  This is something I have heard a few people say it’s not bright enough but neither me nor a few friends that shot it yesterday felt that way at all.

I am running a 250 yard zero with 75/77g match ammo.  This gives me a +3″ at 100 yards with both 55g and 75/77g ammo.  The 2.5 mil hash serves as my 500 yard hold.

In short, for 3 gun use out to 250 I can run 55g 223 or 5.56 and hold dead on, and switch to heavier ammo for the 500 yard targets which are much better in the wind.

On my Wilson Combat 16″ 5.56 1 in 7 stainless I had no problem at 500 yard 12″ plates.

I plan to run this in some 3 gun matches and feel confident it will work out very well.

Please note that the lit reticle is much more obvious in person..


some pics of the Leupold Patrol 1.25-4

 

at 250 yards, unlit
 

at 250 yards, lit
   


500 yards, lit, the 2.5 mil hashmark is centered on a Larue resetting steel target, picture doesn't show it cleanly but it was no problem centering it and hitting with 75/77g

 

at 75 yards, lit
the reticle appears brighter in person
   
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Excellent Nice write up.
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Thanks for the review, i've been keeping my eye on these line of scopes.

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Actually, one point to clarify:
The Leupold has better edge to edge clarity than the Trijicon 1-4
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As usual, nice write up Charles!!  Excellent

I'm going to have to add this scope to the mix of one's I'm currently looking at for my AR (Trijicon and SS).  Thunbs Up

Is that the same WC lower your using for your other AR uppers (JP & WC) or did you get a complete new AR from them?


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Very nice review.

I kind find very few negative reviews from real users on the VX-R line anywhere on the web.  Sounds like a well-done lineup.
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Is the reticle in the first or second focal plane?
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2nd focal plane

Mike, same WC lower I have been using the last two years with my 68 lower
I actually sold the comp specific uppers and am running this WC upper
wanted more of a general use 556
had no problems making hits at 500 with, so, good to go


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Nice scope.  I have been very impressed with the VX-R line so far.

In terms of what they offer for the money, I think the VX-R's are the best scopes Leupold currently makes.

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Originally posted by ccoker ccoker wrote:

2nd focal plane

Mike, same WC lower I have been using the last two years with my 68 lower
I actually sold the comp specific uppers and am running this WC upper
wanted more of a general use 556
had no problems making hits at 500 with, so, good to go




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Another nice write up.  How does it compare to the SS 1-4?
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have not had a chance to test the SS, would like to
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I have been contemplating on getting an SS 1-4 to put on a 300 BLK sbr.  From the photos you posted here it looks like this scope would be a great fit for it also.  I am curious if it is worth the few hundred savings versus the SS 1-4 kit?  

I prefer the FFP of the SS along with the Bobro mount, but I can deal with a SFP and a SALT mount for a few hundred less if the scope can compare.

I ordered one of the Mamba/mount combos yesterday to put on a GSG-522SD.  I should have it beginning of next week to try it out.  I figured for the price I had to give one a try after seeing reviews on here for it.
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I have the SS1-4 on an 300 SBR, great setup, quick on target, great balance - especially with a titanium can out in front.

I haven't used a Leupold in quite some time, might be worth taking a look at this one.  I'd love to play with the 1.1-8, but ain't interested at its current price point.

The SS1-4 deserves some serious consideration.  Some have complained that at 4X the reticle can get fuzzy or disappear if head position moves out of the sweet spot; my solution to that seems to be too obvious to warrant real consideration (if it hurts when you do that, don't do that!)



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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

I have the SS1-4 on an 300 SBR, great setup, quick on target, great balance - especially with a titanium can out in front.

I haven't used a Leupold in quite some time, might be worth taking a look at this one.  I'd love to play with the 1.1-8, but ain't interested at its current price point.

The SS1-4 deserves some serious consideration.  Some have complained that at 4X the reticle can get fuzzy or disappear if head position moves out of the sweet spot; my solution to that seems to be too obvious to warrant real consideration (if it hurts when you do that, don't do that!)

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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

I have the SS1-4 on an 300 SBR, great setup, quick on target, great balance - especially with a titanium can out in front.

I haven't used a Leupold in quite some time, might be worth taking a look at this one.  I'd love to play with the 1.1-8, but ain't interested at its current price point.

The SS1-4 deserves some serious consideration.  Some have complained that at 4X the reticle can get fuzzy or disappear if head position moves out of the sweet spot; my solution to that seems to be too obvious to warrant real consideration (if it hurts when you do that, don't do that!)

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I really like how Rancid has his setup, it's a killer.
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It has the cat tail now, which I highly recommend.
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They are nice, Cheap Trick just got one for his, I think he likes it, Big Smile
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I could see where the price difference could make or break the decision to get the VX-R or the SS 1-4. The VX-R lacks target turrets and FFP but in such low mag scopes, typically mounted on a 5.56 platform does that matter much? It's a different story once you get into optics with much more magnification on the higher end and want to use a reticle to take precision shots at mid-to-long-range distances. Then there's no way I'd go without target turrets. And if the high end mag is over 10X, FFP is the way to go.
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Originally posted by jonoMT jonoMT wrote:

I could see where the price difference could make or break the decision to get the VX-R or the SS 1-4. The VX-R lacks target turrets and FFP but in such low mag scopes, typically mounted on a 5.56 platform does that matter much? It's a different story once you get into optics with much more magnification on the higher end and want to use a reticle to take precision shots at mid-to-long-range distances. Then there's no way I'd go without target turrets. And if the high end mag is over 10X, FFP is the way to go.

Personally, I see no need for target turrets in a scope for this type.  If I were buying an SS, I would be going for a version with capped turrets.

As far as the FFP vs SFP issue goes, that really comes down to the reticle design.

With an appropriate reticle design, i.e. something intended to work at both low and high magnification, I prefer FFP even in low range variables.  With more conventional reticles, like the ones Leupold uses in VX-R, SFP reticles are a good way to go.

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I have not tried the SS 1-4, but the other FFP 1-4s like the Vortex HD and Weaver 1-5 are too small and they don't get bright enough. As a result, they are hard to find fast.
I definitely prefer FFP at 10x and above however.

This little Leupod would make a good rural LE scope or 3 gun optic which is what I will run it for.
I would like to see zero stops and or the ability to cap the turrets.


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ccoker, wrote you a large pm about a couple recent reviews and your website but lost it when I hit submit and it said your box was full Sad

I hope to see Leupold add dim illumination to the stadia lines as well.  With lower magnification you can get away with just holding a hair high, but you lose your high percentage of kill-zone hits past 300 yards if your lines for ranging/hold-over disappear in dark/bad conditions and you are hunting dark animals or people without light, uniform clothing.

Thinking more about the 3-9x Patrol here but believe even the 1-4x should utilize it.




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I know what you are saying...
If you want that in the Leupold, you need to go with the illuminate Mark 4 TMR
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