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Hello All.  Just joined because I find many of these discussions helpful and I respect the collective wisdom shared on Opticstalk.  Would like your opinion.  Have a new Sako 85 Hunter stainless in 30-06.  Need a scope.  I'm no expert and don't have any high-end scopes now, but like the rest of you I'd like the best quality I can get for my money.  Best scope I have currently is a Leupold VX6 2-12x42 mounted on a CZ 300 win mag.  Would like to get better glass without going beyond $1,000.  I'm inclined toward Leupold (I live about 15 miles from Beaverton, OR), but there are so many great reviews of Meopta Meostar scopes I feel pulled between them.  Here in Washington State we can find ourselves in thick woods as well as long shots, and I'm mostly into taking deer, elk, and black bear.  The Meostar R2 1.7-10x42 looks like it would be perfect.  It's difficult (though not impossible) to find here in the states.  Unfortunately, that scope is beyond my $1,000 budget, but I may bust the budget for that scope if y'all think it would be worth it.  Is it worth it, or should I stick with a Leupold?  Thank you in advance for your assistance, I appreciate it.


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That Meopta would be fine. I'd also consider a Swaro Z3 3-9 X 36. Make sure to keep checking the SampleList on here for great deals.
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You won't get better glass for $1000 than that VX6 you already have.  I have the 2-12 and 3-18 VX6 and glass is stellar.  The Meopta you mentioned, the 1.7-10x42 R2 is premium stuff, as good as it gets anywhere by anybody, but the price is more like $1500. 

If you do decide on that R2, I'd opt for the 4C reticle, not the 4K.  I played around with both of them at the DSC show and there's a lot to love with the illuminated 4C. 
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I agree. To get noticeably better optics than the VX6 offers, you're gonna have to shell out considerably more than $1K.
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Both are excellent scopes in all ways. The R2 (I have experience with the 2.5-15x56 version) has a bit better optics, IMO, but the difference is not great. The R2 is at its best in really low light. Whether the cost is worth it is for you to decide.
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Thanks to those who have responded so far and for your positive feedback.  The time you've taken to help someone else, someone you don't know from Adam, is pretty stellar in my book.  I was particularly struck by JGRaider's comment that Meostar is "as good as it gets anywhere by anybody."  Wow!  How could a recommendation get better than that?  Not to dis Leupold, but I've never seen that kind of comment about their scopes, at least not till you're above 2 grand or more.  Now I feel sold on Meostar.  I guess my budget just escalated to $1,500.  Ouch!  Not exactly going to share this plan with the lady of the house.  Don't think she'll get it.  But just once in my life I'd like to buy the best...

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Deal done. Ordered the Meostar from EuroOptic, though on back order. Thanks again to all who helped and tipped the balance for me.
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Ouch, came to SWFAs site  to do the research and then ordered from someone else.  That's harsh 
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Kelster,

My recommendation is to cancel that order, call up SWFA, and place an order through them. They have a 110% price match guarantee, they are a Meopta dealer, and if you call them on the phone, my guess is they can help you even if that model isn't on the website yet.

After all, this is their forum, which you used to help make your decision, so it would be great if you supported them.



Edit: ST beat me to it...
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Originally posted by Kelster Kelster wrote:

Deal done. Ordered the Meostar from EuroOptic, though on back order. Thanks again to all who helped and tipped the balance for me.
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Per the Forum Rules (Rule #3) you agreed to when you registered your account:

"3.  Do not advertise other retailers selling the same or similar products as SWFA, this includes posting links to other retailers for products sold by SWFA.  SWFA does not provide this forum as a vehicle to redirect customers to our competition."


While you're certainly free to shop anywhere you wish, It's just common courtesy to not come onto SWFA's board that they provide for your free use and announce that you bought something, from one of their competitors, within a product line SWFA carries.



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Looks like grilling time. Never had intention to offend. Didn't realize the commercial overlay of SWFA on OpticsTalk, thought it was more of a neutral gathering place for the open exchange of perspectives, advice, and experience. Took to it on that basis, but I guess that made me wrong. That said, I did plenty of searching for that particular Meopta scope, and SWFA never popped up. To make certain, I just went to the SWFA website and it is not listed. So like I say, wasn't trying to pull one over on anyone.
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Originally posted by Kelster Kelster wrote:


...thought it was more of a neutral gathering place for the open exchange of perspectives, advice, and experience. 

It's all of that; it just happens to be one that is owned by an optics retailer. It would be the same thing if you walked into Lowe's and started posting sales flyers for Home Depot on the lumber racks. Using the very forum that SWFA provides for your free use to promote one of their competitors isn't analogous to a "neutral... open exchange of perspectives, advice, and experience." I believe you when you say you meant no harm, and I'm sure you probably didn't read the rules carefully. You didn't offend anyone and we're glad you're here; it's just that rules are rules, and you agree to abide by them in exchange for use of this forum. Rules aside, it's common courtesy.




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Originally posted by JGRaider JGRaider wrote:


If you do decide on that R2, I'd opt for the 4C reticle, not the 4K.  I played around with both of them at the DSC show and there's a lot to love with the illuminated 4C. 

JGR -- I've been waiting for the 1.7-10 to come out for some time -- glad to see it about to hit the states.  Why the preference for the illuminated 4C over the 4K?  I've not had the opportunity to look at them in person, but based on the computer generated images of the two reticles, the center dot on the 4C looks huge, and the floating cross-hair of the 4K looks functional for multiple uses, particularly with the illumination.  I know the computer generated images of reticles can be pretty misleading, so opinions from someone that has looked thru both would be great. 

As a general gripe, why don't we see more manufacturers putting "through-the-scope" pics of their reticles on websites, rather than the computer generated images???

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I'm not a wide duplex kind of guy no matte who makes it.  I like the narrower gap between the thick crosshair posts on the 4C, over the wider gaps of the 4K.  In case of an illumination failure I'd be more likely, with my 54 yr old eyes, to be able to make an accurate shot given the narrower posts.  I'm not sure the subtension of the illuminated dot, but the size of it didn't stick out to me.  Remember, this is a pure hunting scope first and foremost.  If you're shooting paper the thin wires with the illumination turned off will probably please you as well. 
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Perfect -- thanks.
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