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I'm looking at these two scopes and would like some thought "comparisons" on clarity and their reticles.

Leupold 8.5-25x50 Mark 4 LR/T 30mm

IOR 6-24x50 Tactical 35mm




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 For me ior is a far better choice ( I know ...leupold is very good ), it is stronger, with better glass, includes sunshield and rings and the price is very similar.....

Probably in  america leupold have better warranty ( Im in Spain )...but IOR is a first quality scope and damage or problems with it  is extremely rare.

 

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... and why not Zeiss Diavari 6-24x56 T*
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Zeiss Diavari is significantly more expensive.
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Hi koshkin,

 

as you can see Im writting from Spain, sorry about mistakes cos my english is very bad.

 

Im very interested in a Zeiss Diavari 6-24x56 T* with reticle n 63, what do you think about this?. In Europe, Varmint and bench rest are not very common, may be for this reason we only have a few scopes to choose, and this is the one that Ive choose. Now I dont have money enough to have differents scopes. I want it for long range shooting, bench rest and varmint. What do you think about the scope and the reticle?

 

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Valentin.

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Zeiss Diavari VM/V T* 6-24x56 is probably the best scope for long range shooting of any sort.  No 63 reticle is a cross between a mildot and an MP9 reticle, so it should work quite well.  My only reservation would be with a reticle in the first focal plane.  Since it remains constant with respect to the target size, it might block a small target at high magnification.  The good part is that you can range at any magnification.  Optically, this scope is as good as anything else out there.

 

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Hi again,

 

this scope has the reticle in the second focal plane and it remains constant with the magnifications. I have choose it for this reason. I have tested other scopes with the reticle in the first plane and when you use it at high magnification the reticle is too big for shooting small targets and I dont have the confidence for shooting in a best accurate way.For range with the mil-dot in this scope you have to use 12x magnification (in the lower zone of the reticle there is a scale as you know) or check it with other magnification (for example 24x) an re-scale the mil-dot for this magnification, isnt it?

 

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You are right, it is in the second focal plane.  I saw the reticle and assumed that it was in the first focal plane.  My mistake.

 

This scope should work fine for your needs (if you can afford it).  Optically, it is second to none.

 

Ilya

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I like my Leupold

Leupold 8.5-25x50 Mark 4 LR/T 30mm Riflescope

Leupold 8.5-25x50 Mark 4 LR/T 30mm Riflescope

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Weight (oz): 22.5


Illuminated Mil-Dot

Length (in): 14.4
Eye Relief (in): 5.3 - 3.7
Field of View @ 100 yards (ft): 11.2 - 4.4
MOA: 1/4
Finish: Matte
Ring Spacing
Max Mount Ring Spacing (in): 6.5  
Front Ring Space (in): 2.6
Rear Ring Space (in): 2.4
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There are several OPTIONS in Europe that may interest.

 

PECAR in berlin will make optics to order and have interchangeable reticles.

 

Gerhardt (Nickel-Supra) have a 8-32*56. They now sell direct from the factory and the price has dropped.

 

Zeiss now offer a 6-24*72.

 

The S&B 5-25*56 is on its way - delayed a bit due to supply problems of glass.

 

Personally I cannot see the problem with 1st FP. If the reticle is WELL DONE it's fine. IIRC most 1st FP hairs subtend about 6mm at 100m. Now That is better than the grouping of most guns. I find more problems calibrating the reticle 100% every time you change magnification with 2nd FP.

 

Have to add that I am not a fan of ZEISS - I find the image very "white" and after a while my eyes hurt.

 



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Well, some people recomend zeiss 6-24x72, others nickel...and even pecar (a very small german custom factory ).....but ALL OF THEM COST MUCH MORE than Leupold  8.5-25x50 Mark 4 LR/T 30mm  or IOR 6-24X 50  35mm....I think BOTH ARE THE BEST FOR THE MONEY  ....

 

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Or, for quite a bit less money you could get Burris Black Diamond 6-24x50 or 8-32x50.  Also, Pentax Lightseeker-30 6-24x50 or 8.5-32x50.  If I understand this correctly Burris Black Diamond and Pentax LIghtseeker-30 are the same thing with different labels.  You may be able to get a better deal on Pentax, but either will be much cheaper than Leupold and probably comparable optically.  As far as ruggedness goes, Black Diamond is built like a tank.

 

If we are talking about the best for the money, Black Diamond might get the nod.  IOR is probably a better scope, but at twice the price, is it that much better?

 

Having said that, I have not compared these particular models side by side.

 

Ilya

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