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Hi all, just wanted to get some thoughts on the Leupold VX-II Ultralight in 2x7x28mm.

I'd like to mount this on my Ruger M77 Ultralight Rifle. We do a lot of walking here in NoDak for deer. I need something light to carry all day. Most of the shots taken at deer are running (less than 100yds) with standing shots out to 200 or so yds.

What are your thoughts on this scope for this kind of hunting? Also the gun/scope combo?

Thanks and all the best!

Greg
 
 
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I put one on my wife's Ruger Compact 7mm-08. She loves it, and it's a great match for the rifle.  Personally, I would choose something else though. The VX II's are overpriced for what you get (IMO). 
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gjw............................I happen to know just a little bit about the more compact Ruger rifles and know how to scope them based on certain hunting requirements. You didn`t mention the cartridge you`re using, but it really won`t matter anyway.
 
For your need, the 2x7 Leupy Ultralite is a good choice. Whether or not your Ruger`s barrel is matte or blued, I`m not too keen on rifle scopes with a high gloss black finish. I prefer the matte black scopes. But that is a personal preference.
 
For running shots on deer at 100 yards or standing shots at 200 yards or even more, IMO, a little better scope for your rifle, would be the 1-4x20 VX11 and for less cost.
 
Here`s why!
 
First!... You`ll have a little more eye relief than the 2x7. That may not matter too much if you`re shooting a 243, a 7mm/08 or something with lighter recoil. However, the Ruger Ultralites are chambered in the 270 and `06 which do have more recoil.
 
Secondly!... Out to 200 yards as you mention and I`ll take that a step further and say, even out to 300-400 yards for deer sized animals and larger, a 4x magnification is very adequate. On any hunt where shots are taken within a 400 yard distance (deer sized and larger), there won`t be anything you can do with a 7x, that you can`t do with a 4x. Remember, the more you magnify a target, the more the scope wobble. Some if not most hunters including myself, seldom if at all go beyond 5x for hunting shots even out to 500 yards on deer sized game. So a 4x on the high end, will more than cover your hunting distance needs.
 
Thirdly!...The 1-4x20 VX11 will have a wider FOV on the lowest power setting. The wider the FOV you have, the quicker you`ll be able to acquire a moving target at the shorter ranges. A split second delay can and will make a difference as to whether or not you bag something.
 
Fourth!...As I believe the 2x7 already has the capability of doing, the 1-4x20 also has the capability for very fast both eyes open acquiring and aiming, certainly needed imo for your type or style of hunting and for running targets. I believe the 1x4 to be even quicker in that dept than the 2x7.
 
Fifth!...The 1x4 has a lower profile, which imo, looks just a little better on an Ultralite or compact as opposed to the larger belled scopes. Not a big deal with this one up to a 32 or 36mm obj.....Again, a personal preference.  
 
Sixth!...The 2x7`s extra diameter of 8mm for the objective diameter, won`t make that much difference in the dept of lower lite capability between these two.
 
Sitting on my 16.5" tubed 300 WSM Ruger Frontier shorty compact, aka "mighty mouse" (my `lil nick name for it), is the 9 oz 1.5-5x20 VX111. I`m running 24"- 26" tubed 30-06 AI ballistics, so despite its shorter or abbreviated size, it is no short range rifle and yet, a 1.5x5 is all I need for deer/elk even out to 500 yards. And on the flip side, it`s a great and fast scope for the brush at moving or at stationary hogs/deer at the shorter to medium ranges..........I like my cake while eatin it too!....Wink
 
For your needs, either the 1x4 VX11 or the 1.5x5 VX111 would be excellent, outstanding choices. You`ll have great short/moderate range fast acquiring speed and longer range precision capability too if you ever need it. And like the 2x7 Ultralite, either one will keep your rifle light weight.   
 
Have fun!!!
 
 
 
 
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I'll disagree, partly because I think field-of-view is one of the most over-emphasized facrtors in all optics. A 2-7x is a great all-around scope for the type of big game hunting described--and indeed I have a VX-II 2-7x on my own custom 6.5x55 because it is so versatile at average deer ranges.

It depends on the person of couse, but I have killed a lot of deer at 10-25 yards with 4-6xc scopes, so feel that 2x is not handicap if you are a reasonably practiced shooter. (If you aren't, then X's don't matter much.) I ahve also found that even in a compact scope 7x provides an advantage in "twilight factor" in dim light.
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Both the 2x7 and lower variables I mentioned earlier will work. The question is, what`s a little better? The 2x on the low end, is certainly no handicap. John and I just have a little different philosophy or point of view when it comes to the scoping of your Ruger Ultralite
and meeting the need your looking for.
 
For certain situations, such as moving game at the shorter ranges, extra FOV should be emphasized.
 
Since your hunting ranges for the most part will not exceed 200-250 yards at the max for which 4x or 5x on the high end is more than good enough, then why not have more added assurance for moving, running targets and speed on the low end too?
 
The 2x7 Leupy Ultralite has a FOV of 41.7' @ 100 yards.
 
The 1-4x20 VX11 has a FOV of 75' @ 100 yards (an increased FOV of 44%)
The 1.5-5x20 VX111 has a FOV of 68' @ 100 yards (an increased FOV of 38.6%)
 
At the shorter ranges of less than 100 yards,  FOVs do shrink. Keep that in mind when you have a moving or running deer, hog or whatever at say 20 yards. Though a 2x will work fine on the low end, a wider FOV is better for moving targets because your site picture is wider. When your site pic is wider, your reaction time decreases a little, because its easier to pick up the target, especially when moving and running! On the other hand, it won`t make too much difference what the FOV is, to a point, whether if on 1x vs 2x, IF your target is NOT moving. The only scope with a higher variable I`d consider for what you wish to do would be a Trijicon. 
 
The 1x and 1.5x`s on the low end, have the slight advantage when it comes to short range moving and running targets.
 
Even though you are not hunting dangerous game, your particular hunting style of which which you first described, almost duplicates the same type or style of hunting conditions, where speed and quickness at moving game will work to your advantage.
 
You don`t necessarily have to have a DGR rifle in order to have a DGR scope! 
   
 
      
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That's a fine scope. Especially with the heavy reticle. Depending on budget you may also wish to consider the Trijicon TR-21 or 24. The two eye rapid sighting seems perfect for your application. Also ceck out the low power Elite 3200s. Probably a bit heavier but you gain Rainguard and great glass at a lower price.
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