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“The best carbine optic on the market?”

By:  GlockandRoll

Hello shooters:

I am very excited to tell you about my first day in the field with the new Leupold Mk 8 CQBSS 1.1-8 front focal plan scope.  I really hoped not to start my review with the clichéd “I could tell it was good when I opened the box“, but; let me tell you – I could tell it was good when I opened the box!

Let’s start with the tube body itself: It is large, 34mm in fact, which I assumed was to get more light in and allow more elevation travel.. I had no idea how right I was until heading out to Best of The West this morning with Charles and Adam. The wide body (and hopefully you can judge this from the pictures) delivers incredible light transmission, edge to edge clarity, and flawless color. We had a truck full of rigs out there with high-end optics from S&B, NF, USO, et al.. and this scope held it’s on with our quick “set them all to 8x and line them up test”.  And trust me here, I’m an FAA licensed pilot with 20:10 or better vision, and have always considered myself a good judge of optical quality – this is some damned good glass folks!

So let me quickly reiterate what I think about the Leupold Index Matched Lens System, in this optic: It delivers incredible light transmission, edge to edge clarity, and flawless color.

There, I said it twice.

Now, let’s talk about the main reason you, I, or anyone else would be crazy enough to dump $3K+ into an optic. The main reason I wanted it was because of the versatility this scope offers. No doubt, it’s not a small scope, but then again it’s able to replace two other optics at the same time, my Aimpoint on a LaRue mount, and my 2.5-10 Mk4 MR/T illuminated TMR scope w/ARMS rings.  So the way I see it, it’s smaller and less to hall around that those two combined so it is a win.

Sure many will argue “but I can have this and that combined..  for the same price!” fair enough, but is it going to be as rugged, as optically excellent, and function as well without the need to use QD rings and worry about losing zero, or be as good at each role?

Let me also talk about the knobs for a moment. They are amazing it offers 10 Mils of travel with each elevation knob revolution with auto-locking pinch and turn adjustment which I am told Leupold is getting a patent on, as they should it’s the only locking adjustment knob that you can rapidly dial your dope into. It really works well and the clicks are firm and audible in 0.10 mil increments.

I really liked the Horus vision H-27D reticle with a cleverly integrated 5 MOA holographic dot. The front-focal plane allows you to zoom out to 1.1 power and the all you can see is the donut and the horizon line.

H-27D models will feature the M118LR 7.62mm BDC dial, and I did not realize this so I had to do my .10 MIL counts to shoot out to 700 yards. It was not a problem for me, it’s just something to be aware of.

What was that you said? “But GlockandRoll, that’s just too expensive.. I can buy this and that” Sure, it’s not cheap – but I’ll argue that a single tool able to perform multiple roles is better than having to swap tools for different roles. That argument holds just as true when you are in a 3-gun match when you have to engage long-range targets just seconds after close-range targets, as it does in life-and death situations. A fitting analogy would be like having a race car w/slicks and rain tires, but in a fantasy world where a single tire was a sticky on dry pavement as the slicks and as good in the rain as the grooved tire. I would have thought it was impossible until I received this scope last week.

Show me another scope that makes a 5MOA holographic donut reticle that’s so bright we had to back it down of it’s highest setting in the South Central Texas sun at high-noon, that you can – with the flick of a wrist – have a 1000+ yard brilliant FFP reticle piece of glass for long range work with edge-to-edge clarity that is this well made at any price, I dare you.

If you are curious about this piece, please check out Leupold’s website for the Mark 8 1.1-8x24mm CQBSS Front Focal scope and tell them GlockandRoll sent you.

http://www.leupold.com/tactical/products/scopes/mark-8-riflescopes/mark-8-1-1-8x24mm-cqbss-front-focal/

I assure you, it is worth checking out.








at 250 yards





250 yards

1x at 250 yards



500 yards, 8 x, unlit


500 yards, 8 x, lit reticle, 1K orange 19" plates in the far background


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Sounds like a fine optic.  I admit it, I love those through the scope pics.

Thanks.
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Those are some amazing pics through the scope.  I would love to get a hold of one of these to try it out for the upcoming deer season in Wisconsin.  Hopefully there will be a Leupold rep at the next shooting event so I can check one out.

Thanks for the photos and review.
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you know what they cost right?

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Originally posted by ccoker ccoker wrote:

you know what they cost right?

 
An arm, leg and possibly a kidney Wink
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Originally posted by shooter07 shooter07 wrote:

Originally posted by ccoker ccoker wrote:

you know what they cost right?

 
An arm, leg and possibly a kidney Wink
and rights to your first born!
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How critical is the eyebox at 4x, 6x, and 8x. How bright is the image at 8x say compared to a 8x 40?
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I know they are very pricey, around 3K if I'm not mistaken, and thats why I said try one not buy one.  Big Smile  I can't afford one though I wish I could.

The area I hunt here lends targets anywhere from a very dense brush and wooded area where a long shot is 15-20 yards out to an open field looking out to 756 yards.  I imagine that the 1.1x lit reticle along with rugged build will lend very well to stalking through the dense brush and wooded areas while the clarity and light gathering will be superb for the low light early morning and late evening jaunts across the fields that are typically over 150 yards.

The problem with most optics for the area I hunt in is the lack of ability to not fog up from the extreme cold.  Hunting season has been as low as -30 but average is around 10 above.  Most optics have the tendency to rapidly fog up when you bring the rifle up for a shot and the heat of your face hits the glass or God forbid the breeze carries your breath to it.  I have not had this problem with most high end scopes but some still do it.  I would speculate that this scope would not have that problem. 

I take care of my tools because they also take care of me.  With that, I use them as tools and expect them to be able to hold up to any abuse I may have to put them through.  At the price of this scope I would expect no problems at all regardless of who made it.
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Great review and photos.  Liked the recent ones on the Leupold VX-R Patrol scopes also.

Cody I think you would be just as well off for hunting with one of the many 2-7x, 2.5-10, 3-9x, 3-12x, 3-15x, etc. scopes available.  They still fit a deer inside your field of view at 20 yards and you can choose a good one with most of the features for under $1,000.  Most of them will have less weight, give you a larger objective, and not cause you to cry if you scratch them. 

I can't imagine a good reason to get this unless you have so much money you don't know what to do with it or you are really going into a combat zone and feel it gives you the best advantage/confidence.  A $600 Vortex PST 2.5-10x44 would work even better for most hunting scenarios and the saved $3,400 is enough to buy all new hunting gear, a tricked out AR15, and a large stash of practice/hunting ammo.

It does look awesome for combat but I can't imagine the glass being good enough to make up for the 24mm objective and unlit horus reticle when in dark/bad conditions.






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a killer hunting scope is the S&B 1.5-6 Zenith flashdot #9

I LOVE mine !
it's on my 6.8 AR

view at 250 yards

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Sorry if I gave the impression that I thought this was or would make a great hunting scope for the money.  That's not what I was suggesting at all.  

I was just saying if given the chance to demo one, I would love to demo one for that particular reason.  Even if I had the money to purchase one, I would not spend that much on glass for hunting and I know there are a lot of better options to fit the particular role that I listed.  But you gotta admit taking and using one for the "Just because you could" factor, would be fun.

Thank you for suggesting several different optics though, I will look into them.
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