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THESE used ot be like 1300$ MAP, NOW 999.99??

wHAT HAPPENED SWFA?

Leupold 2.5-10x45 VX-7 30mm Riflescope XT-Duplex Leupold 2.5-10x45 VX-7 30mm Riflescope
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I'm Not SWFA, but  I would venture to say making way for new inventory from Leo?
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 isnt a lower price a good thing??
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Maybe they weren't selling well and Leupold had enough margin in these scopes that they could lower the price to encourage sales of existing inventory.
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do you think it is a good buy now?
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eh, maybe, your still paying for a lot of name imo.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

eh, maybe, your still paying for a lot of name imo.
 
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come on though really, arent you paying alot for the schmidt&bender or swarovski name Shockedplus exchange rate differences?




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i can think of other scopes i would rather spend $1k on, but you do whatever you want. just because the scope has a gold ring, doesnt mean you need to be married to it, there are other brands out there.Bucky
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I know the question I have that was never answered was why there is such a big price difference between the VX3 and VX7. What's the difference between them aside from the 30mm tube and 4X zoom.

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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

i can think of other scopes i would rather spend $1k on, but you do whatever you want. just because the scope has a gold ring, doesnt mean you need to be married to it, there are other brands out there.Bucky



ok for 1k what do u like better, not 1200, 1300, 1400,=...... just curious what is head and shoulders better than the vx-7 in its price class



why is a diavari 1000 more than a conquest and i own both>
30mm tube? made in germany? 4x erector? oh its got to be the lotutec


i think the vx-7 has better optics than the vx-3 3.5-10x40 which i have as well. it has the speed dial turrets, come with alumina covers which are like 80-90$, comes with a custom shop freebie, has the 24 hour care package if needed, and most of all i prefer the XT reticle to the standard duplex, heavy duplex, and the german #4 that leupold uses...

is it worth it?? again is a diavari 1000$+ better than a conquest??


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i wouldnt have to spend $1000 to do it, a kahles kx would be enough scope to do the job. would do just fine i think. i dont think i ever said head an shoulders better either, but be truthful here you tell me what $1300 scope the vx7 beats? i bet the answer is none.Light It Up


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im just curious what leupold has to put the price at on the VX-7 for it to be a good buy.  i have read service reports on khales recently trhat were less than stellar, but maybe its better but at what??


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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

i wouldnt have to spend $1000 to do it, a kahles kx would be enough scope to do the job. would do just fine i think. i dont think i ever said head an shoulders better either, but be truthful here you tell me what $1300 scope the vx7 beats? i bet the answer is none.Light It Up


how many vx-7's have you compared side by side with any of these scopes you are talking about?
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Originally posted by 308WIN 308WIN wrote:



Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

i can think of other scopes i would rather spend $1k on, but you do whatever you want. just because the scope has a gold ring, doesnt mean you need to be married to it, there are other brands out there.Bucky
ok for 1k what do u like better, not 1200, 1300, 1400,=...... just curious what is head and shoulders better than the vx-7 in its price classwhy is a diavari 1000 more than a conquest and i own both>30mm tube? made in germany? 4x erector? oh its got to be the lotuteci think the vx-7 has better optics than the vx-3 3.5-10x40 which i have as well. it has the speed dial turrets, come with alumina covers which are like 80-90$, comes with a custom shop freebie, has the 24 hour care package if needed, and most of all i prefer the XT reticle to the standard duplex, heavy duplex, and the german #4 that leupold uses...is it worth it?? again is a diavari 1000$+ better than a conquest??


308win, I don't have any idea why there is the price difference in the Zeiss comparison you make, nor do I know why you are making the comparison as well. Made in Germany???? Probably has alot to do with it. 4x power zoom??? Yep, there's some more cost. Glass the same??? Nope, the Diavari has their more expensive T coatings and Lotu-Tec. I could go on, but, I think you might be missing my point.

Enter the VX3 and VX7. According to Leupold, they use the exact same glass and coatings... Hummmm. Both made in the USA so the "Made in Germany" excuse won't fly. Same gas charged system. Dual erector springs on both as well. Neither have hydrophobic coatings so that can't be it. So, does it really cost a thousand dollars more to make a 30 mm tube, four times zoom tube and pop-up adjustments???

What is the "24 hour care package". Are they going to fly in a new scope to me on a hunt in the middle of the Brooks Range, Sask, or Africa?

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Originally posted by 308WIN 308WIN wrote:

im just curious what leupold has to put the price at on the VX-7 for it to be a good buy. You say 1000 aint worht it, paying for the name....so whats it worth?

a khales KX? better at what? not a better eyebox, i have seen khales and always thought they were what they are, swarovski's reh headed step child who now cant find anyone but an airgun company to import them.... i have read service reports on khales recently trhat were less than stellar, but maybe its better but at what??

its pretty much a vx3, so price should be in that range. its certainly not worth $1300, why pay $1300 for a vx7 when for a little more you could buy a z6?
i dont know what service reports youve been reading, but as far as i know kahles has a pretty strong reputation for building a very durable scope.
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We are in the higher end cutlery business and due to the economy many of our manufacturers are offering lower prices in order to move merchandise. I can't think the high end optic market is much different.
 
Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

I know the question I have that was never answered was why there is such a big price difference between the VX3 and VX7. What's the difference between them aside from the 30mm tube and 4X zoom.
 
My VX3 has a 30mm tube.
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Personally, I think that it is a good thing when Leupold incorporated all the improvements into the new VX3, with a modest price increase. I also think that the "new" VX7 is nothing more than a re badged LPS from several years ago.

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Originally posted by horizonod horizonod wrote:

We are in the higher end cutlery business and due to the economy many of our manufacturers are offering lower prices in order to move merchandise. I can't think the high end optic market is much different.

 

Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

I know the question I have that was never answered was why there is such a big price difference between the VX3 and VX7. What's the difference between them aside from the 30mm tube and 4X zoom.







 

My VX3 has a 30mm tube.


You are probably right that it is likely an inventory thing. Not to long ago, most of the high end euro guys were offering fairly large rebates to reduce inventory. It's sad that their (Swaro, Leica, Zeiss) have gotten so far out of reach to us earthlings.
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Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

Personally, I think that it is a good thing when Leupold incorporated all the improvements into the new VX3, with a modest price increase. I also think that the "new" VX7 is nothing more than a re badged LPS from several years ago.

+1.  I can't think of any scope Leupold makes that would make me want to spend $1k. 
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nevermind


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nevermind


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So, what's the point here, 308WIN?  You sound like someone trying to justify a past purchase, and trying to convince everyone else that you made the right decision.  I have seen you praise just about all high end scopes as "the best" at one time or another under your 2 different user names.  The only person who needs to be satisfied with your purchases is you, as it's your money.

I think the VX-7 is a very nice scope with some nice features.  I have no idea what it's worth, though, as I haven't ever owned one to make that evaluation.  It may very well be worth $1K.  

The bottom line is anything is worth what people are willing to pay for it.  When buyers are contemplating spending $1500+ on a rifle scope, I think they feel more comfortable spending it on long established players of known performance in the alpha class rather than take a chance on a relative newcomer who doesn't have a long history of producing scopes in that class. 

Just my opinion.  I don't think there is a definite right or wrong answer here. 
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Oh, now I get it Ted. Thanks for jogging my memory. This is the guy who posted a "review" of a scope (VX3) that he never even had. Probabily why he can't or won't answer my original question.
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Originally posted by Roy Finn Roy Finn wrote:

Oh, now I get it Ted. Thanks for jogging my memory. This is the guy who posted a "review" of a scope (VX3) that he never even had. Probabily why he can't or won't answer my original question.


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