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SWFA now has Leo 4-18 VXL-7 30 mm listed. Has anyone tried one yet?

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Hello Dale I have not seen one yet,but the word is dealers and pro's at shot were not impressed in the least bit,

not even hard core Leupold fans. The reverse is true for the Z6.

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thats funny the hardcore's hated a new leupold!! prices go up quality goes down, sounds familiar!

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I do not think the quality went down(very hard to do with a Leupold),but the quality has not been on par with the price of any Leupold for a long while now.

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Originally posted by SVD666 SVD666 wrote:

I do not think the quality went down(very hard to do with a Leupold),but the quality has not been on par with the price of any Leupold for a long while now.

 

ok thats what i meant sorry.

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Not real interested in the Z's wrong range for my needs. Ya leos---weatherbys what can ya say.
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it like ford chevy dodge etc i guess you can find that in about any product
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I definety agree with the weatherbys bieng in the same boat as leupold.
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Guys, regardless of what you may think about a given company, isn't a good idea to let the product come out and get into circulation before declaring that it's no good?  I mean, we're relying totally on unsubstantiated, heresay info here.  Most, if not all of us haven't even seen this scope yet, and we're already declaring it a loser?  Is that objective, good advice?

 

I don't place much stock in what someone says based on a show sample seen inside a building.  Isn't it entirely possible that Leupold or anyone else can produce a good product, given the right specs and money spent in pursuing it?

 

Not everyone agrees with your assessment of Leupold in general, as evidenced by the fact very knowledgeable people in the optics field disagree on many things and different people see things differently.  When we make too many assumptions, we discount the very real possibility that things can and do change.  A good example is Bushnell.  If people had based their current product offerings on what wore the Bushnell name in the past, many of us would have totally written off the Elite 4200s without even giving them a chance.

 

C'mon, you guys are better than that...

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It is good advice Rifledude. To many people are getting burned right now as we speak........
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im still a little timid on the 4200 jury's still out for me, but on leupold, when the varix line went away i went with it.
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Checkout the new ad for them in the Rifleman... They paid money for this message?

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You have to understand--deep down SVD really loves Leos, but its like being betrayed by your big brother, he is just waiting for him to get some sense in his head.
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There was a time when I dearly loved leupolds, but there came a time that I decided to move foreward, we are on real time now with no delay and I have made a choice to share everything I know and feel with all of you.

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Originally posted by SVD666 SVD666 wrote:

There was a time when I dearly loved leupolds, but there came a time that I decided to move foreward, we are on real time now with no delay and I have made a choice to share everything I know and feel with all of you.

 

preach it brother!! i was once lost in sin but now am found.

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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

Originally posted by SVD666 SVD666 wrote:

There was a time when I dearly loved leupolds, but there came a time that I decided to move foreward, we are on real time now with no delay and I have made a choice to share everything I know and feel with all of you.

 

preach it brother!! i was once lost in sin but now am found.

 

This reminds me of the great leupold cult thread.

So is "E" the official spokesman for the cult?

Or who do you feel it is now?



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who is E i missed that one
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He is a member of 24hourcampfire.com named Eremicus that Roy Finn introduced to us not by our choice.

 

Here is the first info posted on the Leupold cult:

 

 

http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4937&KW=le upold+cult&PN=0&TPN=2

 

Here is "E"'s latest:

 

http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5320&KW=er emicus

 

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Posted: 17/January/2007 at 14:16 | IP Logged Quote Roy Finn

Maybe Rootmanslim's love of Leupold scopes could be shared with this fellow.

 

"Nightforce has the best glass and coatings in the bussiness ? No. There is essentially no difference in glass and coatings for all the major makers. The only real difference comes from how well the inside of the scope is painted and baffeled against stry light. At this, Zeiss and Leupold lead the pack. E"

 

I think this might be my new favorite:

 

"Leupold has not only stayed up with the euro makers in optical quality, it has surpassed all of them except Zeiss.
This was revealed literally years ago in John Barsness's book, "Optics for the Hunter". He posted the results of some testing done in europe using equipment borrowed from Zeiss and S&B. The results left no doubt that Leupold's scopes are as bright as anyones.
The trouble is that many who compare them to others don't understand the pitfalls of doing such comparisions. Take two scopes and the the one with the shorter eye relief will look brighter simply because the tester's eye is closer to the eye piece. Another factor is the fact that the actual magnification of each can be as much as .5X off from the indicated magnification. Still another is how carefully the scopes are focused. The euro focusing system is much easier and much faster to use. Many don't realize that scopes with the US style focusing system can often produce a much sharper image than they ever thought possible. E"



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all go along with it if your endorsing it!!
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As comical as all of this is, there is a sad reality behind it.
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Do you guys remember the famous post where "E" stated that his Leupold 6x42 riflescope outperformed a Leica 8x42 binocular? Well it is true only if you are.......

 

 

 

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Here's something to consider about the new VX-7's.  Next time you're at your favorite gun store, ask the guy behind the counter if the VX-7s are "Made in the USA."  When he say's "Hell yes!  100% AMERICAN!", ask him to show you ANYWHERE on the box or scope where it says "Made in the USA."

 

HINT: he's going to have a VERY hard time doing so...  Are you wondering the same thing I am???  Strange things are going on @ Loopy right now.

 

p.s.--compare the tube & front objective design with the Nikon Tactical line of scopes (which, by the way, has been discontinued).  What you see might surprise you!

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neato post are you saying they are made in maybe the phillipinees??
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