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    Posted: October/04/2011 at 16:14
Got the itch for another alpha class scope , even though I know I don't need it. Want some input anyway. It's going to replace a 3.5-10x44 Conquest on my Cooper Excalibur .30-06. Currently have Luepold 1" mounts on the gun and it's shooting better than 1/2" MOA with factory ammo at 100 yrds.
 
Looking at the Leica 3.5-18x42 plex with elevation turret. Worried about the thin plex as I do not like real thin plex reticles(but don't want another 4a) . I do not have access to one of these scopes to look at it in person. Plus I would have to change my rings out for this scope. Not worried about the 30mm tube but like that this scope has the hydrophobic coatings. I also hunt with Leica Ultravid 10x42 bino's .
 
Other option is Swarovski Z5 3.5-18X44 plex with the ballistic turret. Had a swarovski before and liked it a lot for the most part. The plex was big enough to see in real low light but I would have preffered it a tad bigger. I know how well the coil spring system works on these scopes for holding a zero(a huge plus for me). Glass is great. Don't have to change rings(not a huge deal anyway). No hydrophobic coatings.
 
Price is the same, basically. Which would you guys choose ? Mostly still hunting (with low light shot capability important) from 100-400 yrds.


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I've owned both the scopes you mentioned & they are both excellent,you might want to take a look at the Premier Hunter.If it's the glass only you seek buy the non illum.I have the 7A plex illum. & the only scope in my stable that matches is Zeiss Victory FL which cost addtional $1K.
Forgot to mention ,the Premier line is made here in the USA.


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Those are two very similar scopes, cbm.  I think the coil springs are the tie-breaker.  I would go with the Swaro.
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Looking into it a little more and it looks like the subtensions on both scopes are about the same. Little on the thin side but my last plex model Swarovski PV 3-12X50 was managable in real low light.
 
I don't know how strong the retention system is in the Leica. So yep, I'm in a "known" durability deal on the Swaro versus the hydrophobic coatings in the Leica ?? I figure the low light performance has to be about the same.
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If my rifle shot 1/2 MOA I"d keep what I had.  They'll all get you past legal shooting light, easily.  If you're bound and determined to switch I'd choose Leica last.  
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I agree. I sold a Zeiss Diavari, Swaro PV and a Kahles Helia C ..........swore on here even....that Conquests can do all that needs to be done legally. But there is a difference even if it's arguably small .........I am going through one of those phases that I want to pay for that difference "right now". Next year I will probably say I should have just kept the Conquest. LocoBig Grin
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Can anyone tell me if the plex reticles in the Z5 or Leica ER scopes are FFP or SFP ?

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Both are SFP

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Originally posted by cbm cbm wrote:

Can anyone tell me if the plex reticles in the Z5 or Leica ER scopes are FFP or SFP ?



Traditional hunting scopes are all going to be SFP. Especially plex reticles.
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My Swaro PV was a FFP plex ............guess I was hoping they still made them like that. Thanks !
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