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Hello. Newbie here, just received an M1000 ART scope for my M14. It may have a problem, but not sure. The base of the scope is bent. That is to say that where the scope mounts to the pic rail, it's high in the middle and low on both ends. This condition changes with the amount of range cammed in. Another concern is that when I select the cam setting appropriate that's correct for my cartridge and dial the magnification higher, the nylon roller on the base reaches the end of the cam prior to 10X (max) being reached. Is that normal, or am I screwing something up?   I do have pics, but I must figure out how to post the links to them.   
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Just got mine in too. Never noticed a bent base, but just saw a youtube video with some guy complaining about the same thing. I'm figuring the rail should give it more rigidity. I also have the problem of the cam going all the way to the screw (end of the cam), I'm set at 330 for .308 150gr. It rolls through the cam pretty easy up til about 800 meters, but then gets tough to turn out to 1000 meters. I'll see how it sights in tomorrow...
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I have an M1000, one of the early ones, two ART Sporters, VERY EARLY ones (one is number 49 sold to the public), and a Weaver/Leatherwood ART from the VietNam era... never experienced anything like the problems described and cannot even visualize what they might be.  I suggest you contact customer service. 
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Actually, I emailed tech support, but no response yet. (couple weeks). I posted here due to the obvious expertise of many of you members. Thanks for chiming in with your experiences! Here's a link to a pic showing the bend:
<a href="http://s1006.photobucket.com/albums/af189/ExcitedVulcan/M14/?action=view¤t=B06C3B8A-8C41-4785-8D55-6095EC99426F-12966-000018CC2CB34F57.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af189/ExcitedVulcan/M14/B06C3B8A-8C41-4785-8D55-6095EC99426F-12966-000018CC2CB34F57.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket Pictures, Images and Photos" /></a>
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Wow. That link turned out pretty ugly...
This should take you to the album:
http://s1006.photobucket.com/albums/af189/ExcitedVulcan/M14/

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It still doesn't work for me...
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Well I just got done unmounting mine. Horrible don't cover how bad it was. I have a 4'x4' target. Sight in at 100 yards.... didn't even touch the target. Moved in to 50 yards and aimed low... still no hit. Hmmm.... moved in to 25 yards and used the second mil dot up... I see a tree limb 6 feet above the target get hit! I put a laser on it and the vertical line up only makes it to 3rd mil dot down and the windage moves diagonally at about a 45° angle. I think I got a lemon...
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So many years ago, purchased a new Belgium FN FAL in 308 and a Leatherwood A/R scope set it for NATO round of that time, still works well, had it cleaned and re-charged once.
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Ok, it looks like some how a %20 got added to the end of that link... If you delete the %20 characters, it works...
Here's another link, hope it works, but as you see, I haven't much computer mojo!
http://m1006.photobucket.com/albums/ExcitedVulcan/M14/?src=www
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Neal, what kind of rifle and mount are you using

fwiw, I have an M14s, and both a basset high picatinny, and an ARMS 18.
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D. O. M., if you've not heard from customer service yet, please email me at Corbett@hi-luxoptics.com.  I'll ensure you speak to the right folks. 

Best Regards,

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Neal, feel free to email me at corbett@hi-luxoptics.com.  I have a few questions about your set up, and perhaps we can figure out if it is a mount/scope relationship issue or a scope issue.

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Thanks Corbett! Email on it's way.
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Sorry Corbett, I'm guessing I didn't have the notify reply box checked. I have a Remington 700 VTR in .308 with a 0 MOA rail (I emailed you guys about what MOA mount to use.) I just posted on another tread so you may see that one too... I sent the first one back to competitor. The second one was a poorly re-manufactured unit and I sent it back. Now the new one I can't hit any piece of a 4x4 foot target. I know you guys make quality scopes and I love the red dot on my AK. I only get home once a week from driving so haven't had the time really to mess with setting a known good scope on this rig. I bought this gun with the express purpose of utilizing the M1000. So not having hit anything with it since I bought both is kind of agonizing.
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competitor not competitor.... don't know how auto correct figures these things...
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geez... again? competitor! not competitor!
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No somethign wrong with your reading abilities,  Re=Read the rules you agreed to when you signed up, you do not mention or post links to competitors of SWFA. It will automatically edit it.
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I learn by experience... like how I got around your little trap?   
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Neal, just wondering, have you tried adjusting the cam on your m-1000 per the instructions? I tried, (m14) and found that I couldn't crank the power up all the way without the nylon roller falling into the counterbore on the cam ring. Just wondering what your experience was. fwiw, I haven't shot mine, as I may try sending it back to where i bought it. They have a return policy that sez if you mount it you bought it. Of course, for this scope, it comes mounted in rings, so...
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Yeah if your at a low cam setting it won't adjust out to the longer meter ranges. Mine gets to the end of the cam at about 700 meters set at 310 to 340.
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Ok, same for me. It just means that the mil-dots aren't usable as such unless you uncouple the magnification ring...
I'm still thinking about shooting it. It's hard for me to admit it when I make a bad call...
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Got one shipped out today for my FNAR.  So from what it sounds like, the cam setting for the ballistics of a 308 Win physically isn't letting it go above 700m? 

Not that I'd be shooting at 700m, I mean generally 308 goes subsonic around 550m. 

So hopefully in 3 days I'll be able to check mine out.
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With the right bullet a .308 can still be super sonic near 1200 yards. Not sure where your gettimg your data, but it is well beyond 550 meters
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pushing my 150 grain Sierra HPBT at only 2550 lets me stay supersonic out to 800 yards... 168's will go to 1000. 175's too (putting some stress on a gas gun, but no prob for a bolt gun)

My issue was using the mil-dots as mil-dots on a sfp scope requires the (usually) max magnification (please correct me if I'm wrong), which would require me to disengage the power ring from the cam to avoid having the nylon roller fall into the counterbore. I intended to shoot this as a field type scope, but if I do, I'll have to get a bi-pod in order to wrangle the dial, as I can't do it with a G.I. web sling...

Any suggestions as to what other scope I may like? My opinion (and understanding) of what I really want are evolving. I may even want a fixed power scope!
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