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hello all.  i've been reading this forum for some time now;  long enough to confuse myself.

i've got a remington 700 sps tactical in .308 on the way.
i plan on using a zeiss conquest 3-9x40 on there.

i realize that for hunting purposes within 150 yards, i shouldn't worry too much.
but i'd like to mount this scope with 600 yard target shooting in mind.  i've got a range here that long, and plan on using it.  i know there are better scopes out there for that job, but i figure mounting this one in that fasion is good practice.

i've read that remingtons are notorius for having their receivers/taps not being sqaure.
i've read that lapping rings can ease the pain of having rings that are not lined up with each other.
i've read that even if i lapp the rings, they might not be lined up with the bore.
i've read that shimming the bases can solve that elevation problem.
i've read that a windage adjustable rear mount can solve that windage problem.
i've read that the last two solutions mentioned are "band-aid" fixes.

it sounds like the burris signature rings will eliminate all of my worries.  a part of me still feels like they may be gimicky or that there is no substitute for old fasioned rings set up properly.

here's my question(s):
am i worrying too much about all this? Whacko
should i just by some extreme tactical rings and see how it goes?
should the signatures be my plan B, or plan A?


thanks for all the info i've gotten from you guys already.
and thanks for any advise you may offer.
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The Burris Signature will provide a larger footprint on the scope for a more secure hold. the Inserts pivot thus removing the need to lap the rings. The inserts will align with the scope removing stress that can be caused from unaligned rings. The inserts will lesson the chance of Ring marks. If you need to raise your MOA it can be done by using the appropriate insert to increase angle off the bore. This is a system that works. Check out this video.

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yeah.  i had read that thread and seen the video.  sounds too good to be true.
are you using them?
i guess i'm looking for testimonials.  i'd hate to mount them and find that they don't last, or they shift when bumped or fired.
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I have been using Burris signature rings for fifteen years. I think they are great.  I haven't scratched a scope that has been mounted in the Burris rings.  No problems with shooting or anything, either  ( but I really never had any problem with steel rings from other manufacturers, either. )  But, since I really like the Burris rings, I continue to get Redfield-style bases as a rule and stick with the Burris rings. I like the Burris Bases, too, because I believe they are higher than the other manufacturers, which sometimes comes in handy when you need just a speck more clearance for a bolt handle or to rotate your power selector ring.
 
I would someday like to get some Conetrols or some of the other neat mounts, but now I worry about that poor little scope with that nasty steel ring grabbin' it!! Shocked   ( It gives me the willies---like fingernails on a blackboard!! )  Shocked
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I have am using them on 6 different rifles from 22 up to 270wsm. No problems yet in 8 years of use, and no messed up scopes. I have never used the offset inserts but the theory is sound. 
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I have used the Burris signature rings and I like them as well. They can be a little bit of a pain to set up if you decide to use the 'offset' inserts, but they work very well.

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I have mounted many scopes on many rifles over the years and have developed a favorite set up from experience. I have never seen a failure from this.
 
I use Warne bases on all guns, tactical bases on my long range guns and the non tactical 2 piece versions on all else.
 
I then use badger rings on the long range guns and Leupold PRW rings on all else.
 
I have never had a shift or deviation of any kind, this is the most sold mount I have ever seen. blue loc-tite and a torque wrench and a little patience and you will not be sorry.
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The Conetrol rings are undoubtedly good.  (Weatherby uses them on their magnum rifles.)  When I tried a set, however, they were a little touchy to set up.  (They have several  interlocking pieces.)  
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yes, I would have someone with 20/20 vision put them on while I stood around making dumb remarks and looking at used guns.........Bucky
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