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Just found this on Gamo's web sight. Looks like Kahles is in need of yet another distributor.
I did a search of the OT sight, and this info didn't come up. Sorry if it's old news

http://www.gamooutdoorusa.com/Announcement.html

 Thank you for your inquiry regarding Kahles. As of April 19th, 2011, Gamo Outdoor USA is no longer providing distribution, customer service or warranty service for Kahles Optics.

For any question please contact Kahles directly:

By phone:  (866) 606-8779
By email:  info@kahles.at
Through the web:  www.kahles.at

For repairs please send your product to:

Kahles Service Center
2 Slater Rd.
Cranston, RI 02920

Thank you.




Edited by snakeman48 - June/19/2011 at 03:03
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Looks like back to the old agreement with SONA (Swarovski of North America) where they're responsible for shipping the device back to Kahles in Austria.
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I think if they sold the C series in the US they would be more successful.  The CSX line, as nice as it is, is in a price range beyond what would sell.  I'd like to get another C series 2.5-10x50 if I could only find one...
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They are a nice scope but who needs the attitude they have.
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That's too bad...they are great scopes though. Sad
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I think the decision to drop the 1'' KX and CL scope lines, and the binoculars in the US market didn't help sales under Gamo. With only the CSX and the K series of scopes being currently imported, that moved their entry price point into a range where only scope connoisseurs would look at their products. The average Joe never heard of them.

Case in point, I never heard of Kahles scopes until I found this forum. I was a tried and true Leupold man, with a lone S&B Zenith being the only other brand in my stable.
Today I have more KX and CL Kahles mounted than any other brand. I just recently picked up a used CSX 1.5-6x42 off of a member on OT.

I don't understand why the 1'' KX line was dropped from the US market, when it's still being sold in the rest of the world, along with the 30mm C and the CBX lines also still being marketed. Their marketing department could not decide on a strategy for the US market. They introduce the CL line, and dropped the AH line at the same time. Then they came to the conclusion that was a mistake, and updated  the AH line and brought it back as the KX line, then they turn around and drop the 1'' line completely.
Alot of those decisions might have to do with their parent company, Swarovski, not wanting the Kahles scopes cannibalizing sales from them.
A customer who understood Alpha glass scopes could see that Kahles offered Alpha glass and quality at better prices. I know I did.

Maybe Mr. Koshkin can shed some light on this




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Probably didn't help that Gamo was showing their scopes side by side with BSA @ SHOT.
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Gamo just never seemed a marketing match for Kahles IMHO.  I have owned one set of Kahles binocs (stolen) and two of their scopes.  I know that they had a stormy relationship with Swaro before Gamo.
 
I just wish that they would reconsider producing their KX (or whatever, 1") scopes again for sale in the North American markets.  Those scopes were a heck of a buy for their pricing segmentation.  I guess they value the premium branding more than sales of optics and marketing presence in North America, too bad!
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I like Kahles products and I agree that the Gamo relationship did not seem to be a match made in heaven.

I hope they can pick up a better US-based partner next time around.  I can think of a few who would do a good job and I hope Kahles is talking to them.

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How about this:
SWFA, exclusive distributor for Kahles Optics, USA.
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Originally posted by WYcoyote WYcoyote wrote:

How about this:
SWFA, exclusive distributor for Kahles Optics, USA.

That would definitely have a nice ring to it.  Perhaps more importantly it would put US Kahles into the hands of people who actually know what they are doing...

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Originally posted by WYcoyote WYcoyote wrote:

How about this:
SWFA, exclusive distributor for Kahles Optics, USA.


Now, that would be exactly what the doctor ordered.
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Originally posted by WYcoyote WYcoyote wrote:

How about this:
SWFA, exclusive distributor for Kahles Optics, USA.
Sounds good to me tooExcellent
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That's a shame. I believe this is one of the biggest issues that hurts the european scope manufacturers. That's the here today gone tomorrow syndrom and the subsequent interupptions in customer service it causes. Even if they get a new distributor will that company gladly replace a scope they did not sell. I think Zeiss made a good move in coming to the states themselves and establishing a presence here if they want to become a player in the domestic scope market.
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FYI:  Kahles scopes do have a large dealer (maybe not technically a distributor) in the U.S. that most people would be suprised to know. Kahles are re-badged for them as a store brand. Does anybody know what company it is?

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Originally posted by lewwetzel lewwetzel wrote:

FYI:  Kahles scopes do have a large dealer (maybe not technically a distributor) in the U.S. that most people would be suprised to know. Kahles are re-badged for them as a store brand. Does anybody know what company it is?


Do tell.
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Always interested in hearing about the Kahles history and ownership Wink
 
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Does it start with a C?
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Originally posted by jonoMT jonoMT wrote:

Does it start with a C?
 
I don't think so regarding rifle scopes.
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Originally posted by lewwetzel lewwetzel wrote:

FYI:  Kahles scopes do have a large dealer (maybe not technically a distributor) in the U.S. that most people would be suprised to know. Kahles are re-badged for them as a store brand. Does anybody know what company it is?

Kahles re-badged as a store brand?  that is news to me.  I though the only Euro company to do that was Meopta.

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I heard that the Cabela's Euro binoculars were Kahles. There is a resemblance in looks and cost. As far as rifle scopes, they have nothing close to a 30mm or 1" Kahles.

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Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

I heard that the Cabela's Euro binoculars were Kahles. There is a resemblance in looks and cost. As far as rifle scopes, they have nothing close to a 30mm or 1" Kahles.


Historically, they were always Meopta (at least in my memory).  The pictures on their website that show their Euro binoculars are DEFINITELY Meopta.

ILya
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