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Any update with motobie's 624i? I'm curious if he was able to get a replacement that was better.
CA is till prevalent in the Gen 3's. QC issue or still using a flawed design?  
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My gen2 has far less CA than my gen1 did, I haven't bothered to look at the gen3.

Not sure whatever happened to/with motobie.
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I just sent a Gen 3 back to Customer Service because of CA. I'm hoping mine was a defect and not the norm. I'm thinking Hensoldt if all the Gen 3's have this. Maybe even a Zeiss V8 4.8-35X60 if I can remove the pin in the Zero Stop for more elevation. If it has a pin. lol

 

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Vortex gen2 razer is a nice scope for the money. Take a look before you make a final decision.

Not that Hensoldt is any slouch.

Who is servicing Hensoldt now?
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I tried the Gen 2 Razor. Not all that impressed with the glass.
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I just read a series of reviews on the Gen3 Kahles.  CA was the common complaint.  The only place I know of right now for Hensold repair is Cassidian Optronics.

from there they have several contact listings.  

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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

I just read a series of reviews on the Gen3 Kahles.  CA was the common complaint.  The only place I know of right now for Hensold repair is Cassidian Optronics.

from there they have several contact listings.  



I was just told by Kahles that CA is common also with Hensoldt, S&B and Premier and I shouldn't notice it if I don't look for it. Loco  Is my Loco unwarranted?
Also, it's a "by-product of high light transmission." Funny how I don't hear any complaints about CA with Zeiss HT or anything Zeiss for that matter. My HD5 or Razor Gen 2 didn't have any.  
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I have the Hensoldt 6-24x72 that my wife purchased for me… CA is non-existent with it.  I've not noticed it in any of the other Hensoldt's I've had my hands on… a few… I've done extensive experimentation with my scope at all light levels, in all types of weather.   Just isn't there.  
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

I have the Hensoldt 6-24x72 that my wife purchased for me… CA is non-existent with it.  I've not noticed it in any of the other Hensoldt's I've had my hands on… a few… I've done extensive experimentation with my scope at all light levels, in all types of weather.   Just isn't there.  


As I expected.
How's the 6-24X72 working for you? My concern is mounting the scope,eye/cheek positioning with such a large objective.
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Who said CA is common with all the good stuff? Who, specifically?

Whomever, it is BS.
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Nick, a Kahles rep.
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I would avoid trusting Nick too much.
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

I would avoid trusting Nick too much.


I don't at all. Too much B.S. I hope he isn't the one responsible for my return.
If my scope is returned in the same condition I'm going the Hensoldt route.
 
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A friend has the Hensoldt 6-24x72 SFP, nice scope, great image, HUGE!

I have a 3-12x56 that I love.
The Zeiss FL is no slouch.
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I'm definitely considering the Hensoldt. Does the Zeiss FL have enough elevation for about 1200yrds?
(338L Improved)
More great advice from Kahles. In reference to my white targets and CA. "But once you start looking at other objects/targets you'll appreciate the rest of the optic for the other capabilities." 

Now I have to get less contrasty, preferably not white targets so I can appreciate the scope. lol
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Originally posted by Scottyman Scottyman wrote:

Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

I have the Hensoldt 6-24x72 that my wife purchased for me… CA is non-existent with it.  I've not noticed it in any of the other Hensoldt's I've had my hands on… a few… I've done extensive experimentation with my scope at all light levels, in all types of weather.   Just isn't there.  


As I expected.
How's the 6-24X72 working for you? My concern is mounting the scope,eye/cheek positioning with such a large objective.
Near Alphamount...Works great for me...

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I do agree that CA is most noticeable when shooting at a high contrast target, but disagree that other good stuff has as much CA as Kahles 6-24. Having owned the gen1, it had CA in excess. The gen2 has significantly less CA (mine, at least), but it was still present. I ain't ponying up for the gen3. I love the parallax adjustment - at least in principle.

My gen2 K624i will probably be my last Kahles. It is a thoroughly serviceable scope, but they just aren't worth the asking price. If the parallax adjustment worked better, and the CA was gone, and the image resolution was MUCH better, I'd consider; but the whole " fool me twice" thing just bugs me.

I'd look elsewhere.

Hensoldt is still the best image I have had, vortex gen2 Razer is quite good (mine), my trusty heritage 3-15 is still among the best ever. I actually have 2 scopes with no rifles for now, so I gotta get shopping!
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

I do agree that CA is most noticeable when shooting at a high contrast target, but disagree that other good stuff has as much CA as Kahles 6-24. Having owned the gen1, it had CA in excess. The gen2 has significantly less CA (mine, at least), but it was still present. I ain't ponying up for the gen3. I love the parallax adjustment - at least in principle.

My gen2 K624i will probably be my last Kahles. It is a thoroughly serviceable scope, but they just aren't worth the asking price. If the parallax adjustment worked better, and the CA was gone, and the image resolution was MUCH better, I'd consider; but the whole " fool me twice" thing just bugs me.

I'd look elsewhere.

Hensoldt is still the best image I have had, vortex gen2 Razer is quite good (mine), my trusty heritage 3-15 is still among the best ever. I actually have 2 scopes with no rifles for now, so I gotta get shopping!

You need a NEMO OMEN Watchman 2.0… 
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I really might.
And/or a TRG 42 in 338L.
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Either is excellent… both is better...
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

I really might.
And/or a TRG 42 in 338L.

You are going to get a nice rifle.

I have a few mounts I dumped my 42 but kept a few mounts I had for it 20moa and 30moa when you need them...

I think i misplaced the MB I had mine threaded for a OPS Inc .338 can and dumped the package.
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