Kahles K624i vs... everything else

True KB but the coating has a little more work done in the blue spectrum,also the turrets seem to be a level above the FL.Also the internal parts are made a little different as the Henny is a 34mm tube & to mil spec tolerence.

jonoMT wrote: 338LAPUASLAP wrote: I am thinking that the Zeiss FL scope is the best receipe of glass and coatings... Now if only they would merge with NF to become ZeissForce.

I looked at a NF in retail store tonight while they look well built good lord they are massive and extremely heafty heafty heafty.

Yes ,I was talking about the Henny.It was your comparrison last year between the 2 Zeiss scopes that led me to trading up to the Henny from the FL....Thanks

Good feedback on the Kahles K!
I wasn't aware that it Kahles had introduced their own hydrophobic lens coating.

A couple general observations:

- Personally, I've never seen a graduated SF knob on any scope that had perfectly calibrated distance markings... for MY eye, and I'm not sure it's even possible anyway, given normal manufacturing variations and variations in eyesight. I do agree that I like to have markings of some kind just as a reference, however.

- Though it would seem easy, I've seen damn few scopes with perfectly designed illumination systems (for the intended purpose) for every light condition. The closest I've seen to perfect that I've personally used have been the S&B Zenith Flash Dot system, the Swaro Z6i system, and the Zeiss Varipoint system. Still, each of those have their own minor shortcomings. Trijicon's battery-less system is pretty good too, but I like more control over intensity in low light than it provides (which is essentially none after a certain point in the evening), and I have to fiddle with the fiber optic shroud to tone down intensity more than I'd prefer in daylight. I like each of those for slightly different reasons, but they are all excellent... for how I use lit reticles.


Edited by RifleDude - December/19/2012 at 08:49

Man, how I wish Kahles still offered 1" tube hunting scopes! I'm just glad they still have a presence here in the States after all the shakeup with distribution & CS, because IMHO their scopes hold their own with anything else available (that I've experienced) optically and mechanically.

It sounds like they really did their homework on this scope! I don't recall if you mentioned already, but does it have the position switch that automatically turns off illumination when the scope is oriented upward or on its side?

Wow, Charles...the US Kahles rep I met at the SHOT show you and I both attended a couple years ago told me Kahles had no future plans to produce any more 1" tube scopes because they didn't feel the average US buyer would pay what they had to sell them for to make a profit, considering the retail prices of their competitors' 1" scopes. That has held true... evidently until recently. So, I haven't been looking for new 1" tube scopes from Kahles and was not aware of the KXI models.

That's a really intriguing scope, but unfortunately, I'm not a fan of 1" tube scopes with 50mm objectives. If I want an objective that large, I'm going 30mm anyway. Given current trends, I also don't understand why they'd introduce a 3:1 erector scope instead of a 4:1 or 5:1 zoom range, especially at that price point.  I appears that's essentially the same scope as the previous KX 3.5-10X50, except with the addition of illumination and some new reticles.

If they're returning to the 1" tube scene, I wish they'd continue building more compact stuff like their excellent 2-7X36 CL they discontinued very shortly after introduction.  But, evidently I must be among the minority of buyers who prefer compact "tweener" models since so many scope mfgs keep discontinuing their "tweener" scopes.


Edited by RifleDude - December/19/2012 at 12:10

^Aside from not wanting to pack around anymore bulk and weight than I have too. I tend to shoot better with lighter weight rifles than heavier weight ones. Everyone has their preference in these areas.
Plus my very average and getting older eyes can't tell the difference between the "glass" on $500 and up scopes no matter the brand.



Edited by rustic - December/19/2012 at 19:31

rustic wrote: ^Aside from not wanting to pack around anymore bulk and weight than I have too. I tend to shoot better with lighter weight rifles than heavier weight ones. Everyone has their preference in these areas. Plus my very average and getting older eyes can't tell the difference between the "glass" on $500 and up scopes no matter the brand.

Sparky wrote: rustic wrote: Plus my very average and getting older eyes can't tell the difference between the "glass" on $500 and up scopes no matter the brand. So why did you purchase the Swaro then?

Because I wanted too.

Having now put enough rounds down range to consider the Kahles well broken in, I like it more than before.