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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Krazelegs,

There is a zero stop.
There are 14 mils per revolution.

It is an exceptional scope.

Will see hard use next weekend. And there will be pictures.


Great!

Can't wait to hear more.  Your weekend sounds much more fun than chasing kids around, I'm envious hombre.

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1K view
Targets are 18" wide except for far right which is an 8" plate:
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Take the shot hold  inner edge 1st. 3-4 follow...
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What power were you on when taking that picture Charles? Love to have a 1K range like that by me & someone to teach me how to shoot out at 1K.I only get to shoot out to 400yrds.
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Looks a little blurry...
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Looks a little blurry...


Mirage perhaps?
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or the transition from camera to scope
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It was a joke, son...
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at full power
my buddy took it with his Android smart phone
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Not bad... not bad at all...
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

It was a joke, son...
I know, just didn't want someone passing through trying to learns the new Kahles not knowing
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I spent the whole weekend shooting, had no time/opportunity to take pictures - which sucks.

I will be back out with it in a few weeks.

Having now put a few more rounds down range, there are a few more observations.

1.  I like the view at about 16X best.  At 24X, there is a little thought to getting a good sight picture, but it sure is pretty when you get there.

2.  The yardage markings on the parallax turret are pretty far off beyond about 300 yards, it isn't a problem, you just need to forget about what the turret says and pay more attention to a parallax-free image.

3.  The turrets are awesome, the zero stop works great!

4.  I do not like the illumination scheme in very low light.  It illuminates the center dot, but a whole lot more (and nothing on the "christmas tree."

I will be keeping this scope for a long, long time. And the bar is set exceedingly high for the Steiner.
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

2.  The yardage markings on the parallax turret are pretty far off beyond about 300 yards, it isn't a problem, you just need to forget about what the turret says and pay more attention to a parallax-free image.
I wonder if that's something common to scopes with parallax adjustment...as in is it something about the relationship between the shooter's vision and the optics/sight picture. I always found it amusing that people would complain about a lack of markings on the Premier knob. It's a bit time consuming but better to rely on just dialing it in until sharp and the reticle isn't moving when I move my head around a bit.
Reaction time is a factor...
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Exactly!  I have Premiers with nothing and with the expanding scale, no numbers on either.  My preference is some manner of marking, so I know where I am on the rotation.

The problem with numbers is that you tend to use them as a crutch: "get close on the dial, then get it perfect on the scope", and no set of numbers will be perfect.  I now prefer the graduated scale setup (Premier LT) as I know if I am near top or bottom, but don't bother getting "close" off the scope.

As said, it is a very minor gripe.  And would be far less bothersome were there no detents to tell me I have arrived at a marker that is not accurate.
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I do like the addition to the Premier of the expanding scale, like you said, just so you know where you are on the rotation (and, for me anyway, remembering which way to turn it).
 
Overall, these new Kahles models are exciting additions to their product line.
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Thanks for the quick reviewRC.How did it hold up to the Henny?
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To the Henny, it was as sharp and bright (at the same relative magnification.)  The real test was the Kahles vs the Zeiss FL T.  In that regard, the glass was very, very close - too close to call; but eye relief was better on the Kahles.  The water shedding coating (if there is one) on the Kahles was not as good, but the brightness and clarity were very similar.  I think the color on the Zeiss might be a bit better, but that is far from my priority.
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"What is your conclusion on FL vs K in low light???"
 
I am thinking that the Zeiss FL scope is the best receipe of glass and coatings...
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Originally posted by 338LAPUASLAP 338LAPUASLAP wrote:

I am thinking that the Zeiss FL scope is the best receipe of glass and coatings...
Now if only they would merge with NF to become ZeissForce.
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Originally posted by jonoMT jonoMT wrote:

Originally posted by 338LAPUASLAP 338LAPUASLAP wrote:

I am thinking that the Zeiss FL scope is the best receipe of glass and coatings...
Now if only they would merge with NF to become ZeissForce.


Now wouldn't that be an out standing scope.
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