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DAVE44
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Posted: September/21/2007 at 12:52 |
IS THIS SCOPE WORTH $500.OO BRAND NEW IN BOX? ANYONE USED THIS MODEL OR HAVE OPINIONS ON IT?
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koshkin
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I've played with same scope with #4a reticle. For $500, it is a steal.
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RifleDude
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Let's put it this way -- if you don't buy it, please give me the contact information and I will! This scope (except with 4a reticle) is one of my planned optics purchases during the next year. |
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Ted
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DAVE44
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Well, I bought it for $480.00 brand new and never used. It has the plex reticle but not the multi zero feature which I read they have been having problems with. Is the plex reticle in this scope the same as or thinner than a #20 z-plex in a Zeiss Conquest? The guy told me I could back out if I changed my mind. Does KAHLES do reticle changes in case I want to change it to a 4A reticle? If so, how much do they charge?
Also, Ive heard the Ocular housing on these new Kahles are rather large, will they cause problems with the bolt clearance on a REMINGTON MODEL 700? |
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ND2000
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Dave44 -
I have the CL 3-9x42, albeit with the 4a recticle. You should not have any problems with the bolt clearance. Chris Farris of SWFA also uses Kahles on his primary hunting rifle. You could also ask him directly.
That is an awesome scope. If you ultimately decide you don't want it and RifleDude passes, let me know!
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You either get what you pay for or what you deserve.
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RifleDude
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Funny, I don't feel the least bit sick... |
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Ted
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Chris Farris
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Ya'll really need to check out the SampleList from time to time.
We are having a HUGE Kahles sale on demos and we still have another 100+ to list next week.
Here are a few examples.
CB 2.5-10X50 Illuminated Reticle.....$799.95 (MSRP $1594.)
CL 3-9x42 Plex w/ MultiZero.....$599.95 (MSRP $1281.)
CL 4-12x52.....$699.95 (MSRP $1182.)
AH 3-9x42 w/ TDS Reticle.....$499.95 (MSRP $792.)
8x32 Binoculars....$299.95 (MSRP $806.)
8x42 Binoculars.....$349.95 (MSRP $883.) Edited by Chris Farris |
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ND2000
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Chris -
I just checked the inventory...I think I need to buy more guns for some of those scopes. ND2000 |
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DAVE44
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Well, I was going to get a 3-9X40 CONQUEST WITH Z PLEX but I great things about the KAHLES CL so I went ahead and got it. I figure I can get most of my money back out of it if Im not impressed. It has a smaller objective at 36mm, but supposedly better glass than the CONQUEST. So do you think it will be brighter than the
40 or 44mm CONQUEST? I want a heavier plex reticle like the Z-PLEX, I couldnt tell by the KAHLES website reticle examples just how thick the reticles are in relation to one another. My question , is the KAHLES PLEX thicker than or thinner than a KAHLES 7A reticle? Is their plex similar in thickness to a z-plex? I have never used a #4 reticle but I want to try one out. The last thing I didnt notice untill now is that it isnt 1/4" adjustments, it says .33 . Does that mean three clicks equal one inch insted of 4 clicks????? |
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koshkin
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Try Kahles website
http://www.kahlesoptik.com/retensions.php5?produkt_id=19 ILya |
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ND2000
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Dave44 -
I can assure you that the Kahles CL will be brighter than the Conquest. The size of the objective lens is not critical with respect to riflescopes because the magnification range is generally lower (for instance, given a maximum useable exit pupil of 6 mm, at any power less than 7x a 42mm objective cannot produce a brighter image because our eye can't benefit anyway). Also, Kahles uses much better coatings on their CL line than Zeiss does with the Conquest. Conquest is a very good value in scope land, but it's definitely not the optical equivalent of the CL. Finally, on my CL it's 3 clicks per inch at 100 yards. You will really like the #4 recticle. ND2000 |
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DAVE44
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I want to try that #4 reticle, unfortunately the model Im getting is the 2-7x36 with the plex reticle. I dont know if KAHLES does reticle changes or not and if so how much it would cost to have a #4 installed.
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DAVE44
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I called KAHLES today and got SWAROVSKI CUSTOMER SERVICE. They said it would cost $150.00 for a reticle change. I will probably go ahead and keep the 2-7x36 cl with plex, but now I am wondering if the 3-9x42 CL with Plex on the sample list wouldnt be a better deal for $80.00 more. Is there going to be that much difference between them?
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ND2000
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Dave -
Obviously Kahles is owned by Swarovski, but I thought they maintained their own customer service department with respect to their riflescopes (particularly as their scopes are generally better!). You wouldn't notice much, if any difference between the two scopes. I'm not sure what type of gun/shooting you'll be doing, but the 2-7x36 would more than meet your needs to 250-300 yards.
I'd maybe wait just a bit. Chris indicated a lot more Kahles scopes would be entering the samplelist this week. Perhaps one that exactly meets your needs will be posted.
Still looking for a new gun to get one of these scopes.
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RifleDude
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Despite the fact I've heard Swaro and Kahles have a rather contentious relationship with each other, they share the same North America CS dept. at 2 Slater Rd, Cranston, RI 02920 -- Swarovski Optik North America. I've dealt with S.O.N.A. for repair of a Swaro scope I dropped onto a rock and replacement of badly worn camo armor to grey armor on a Kahles bino, and in both cases, they treated me well and took care of business very promptly.
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Ted
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