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 new member to the ot. love this place and good information . been viewing for long time now.looking for info on new kahles kx.is it better than conquest..$200 dollars better.really want agood low light scope.i have good scopes in nikon monarch  and leupold 2.they are good but i like to extend shooting time alittle.also is the kx basicly the same as cl model without parralex adjustment.price difference is $300 between kx and cl. dont mind the money part i just dont want to spend more and not get more.ready to make a purchase just need a little help.

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KX is better than the Conquest. The lenses on the KX have top end performance. This is one of those

rare exeptions where you get alot more than what you have paid for.

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Are the Kahles CL and Kahles KX the same scope with the same glass and coatings with the only difference being the side focus adjustment and multizero reticle? Also, do the Kahles KX scopes have a fixed eye relief and is it an etched reticle ? I know you said it is better than a Zeiss Conquest but is it $300 better...really? Last thing, is the Plex reticle in the Kahles the same as the #20 z-plex in the Zeiss as far as the thickness of the reticles lines?
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yes - same glass, same coatings - EXCELLENT value.

 

i would recommend the #4 reticle if ANY lowlight settings are involved.

 

the only other reccomendation in that price range would be meostar by meopta. it's GREAT for under 700.

 

you are on the right track.

 

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i have been looking at the meostar and really like them .i do want 4 recticle. on kx it has same coatings but is it internally the same scope. thanks for replies so far but keep on with them. also dont the conquest have the coatings as vm models. i know conquest isnt neer the same scope as vm.thanks

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Conquest does not have the same coatings as VM.
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not even close, IMO - the VM/V are rediculously good, and priced accordingly.

 

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im leaning toward the kahles kx right now.really cant justify getting the kahles cl for the extra $3OO since i dont think i need the parralax feature.i have looked thru the cl awhile back and it was really clear and bright and just a great looking scope.cant stand the thought of getting the conquest thinking i bet the kahles would have been better.now if i could just figure out 42mm or 50mm.decisions,decision,dicisions
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Originally posted by ronnie ronnie wrote:

im leaning toward the kahles kx right now.really cant justify getting the kahles cl for the extra $3OO since i dont think i need the parralax feature.i have looked thru the cl awhile back and it was really clear and bright and just a great looking scope.cant stand the thought of getting the conquest thinking i bet the kahles would have been better.now if i could just figure out 42mm or 50mm.decisions,decision,dicisions

 

http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5798&PN=2

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like i said there is great info on ot.that made my mind up. thanks for the link trinidad. ijust got back from looking atsome scopes.no kx yet only had cl.almost bought the cl 50mm. best price i have seen.$889 new .plex reticle but really want the 4a reticle so just couldnt do it.could you or some one explain what the parralax adjustment does or affects. could i benifiet from this feature
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Originally posted by ronnie ronnie wrote:

like i said there is great info on ot.that made my mind up. thanks for the link trinidad. ijust got back from looking atsome scopes.no kx yet only had cl.almost bought the cl 50mm. best price i have seen.$889 new .plex reticle but really want the 4a reticle so just couldnt do it.could you or some one explain what the parralax adjustment does or affects. could i benifiet from this feature

 

Parralax adjustment will be needed if you are hunting long range at higher powers.

 

 

http://www.opticstalk.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5026&KW=pa rallax+error

 

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started comparing some more scopes and run across ior scopes.these scopes seem to tough,great glass and good coatings on lenses.company been around long time now.also good lowlight scope judging on ot info.these scopes are also priced very reasonable considering glass and where they are made.i am wondering how these would compare to these khales cl and kx models

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Hey Ronnie,

 

Trinidad is correct. The Kahles is believe it or not even clearer and better in low light than the conquest. I own both in 3.5-10x50. I also purchased a Kahles CL which is better than my friends Swaro American and in the same class as my brothers Swaro Pro Hunter. Good luck.

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I HAVE A LEUPOLD V111 3.5X10X40.  THINKING OF MOVING UP TO KAHLES 3.5X10X50.  WILL THE KAHLES GIVE ME BETTER LIGHT AT DUSK?  ARE THE OPTICS AND COATINGS THAT MUCH BETTER?  HOW'S THE PRICE?  THANKS.  SHOOT STRAIGHT

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dslayer this is the reason i started this post several days ago.i always thought in past the v-lll's,monarch's i was buying was pretty much top notch scopes until heard all the reviews on this forum about  much higher end scopes .on some this scopes you will be paying nearly twice as much as your v-lll and some 3 times the price.i think im ready to move up to one of these highend scopes as long as i get the lowlight performance i want.i would be upset to pay these prices and not get a little more performance.i have been looking at $1500 swarvos,zeiss,and the khales c here lately and the first plane reticle would take a little getting used to but i think id like it .little pricey thou.anyway its a hard decision deciding on which one but i think id be happy with some of the medium price scopes like khales kx, ior, meopta or for a little more the khales cl.
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i would go kahles KX w/ a #4a reticle if available. if not that, the meostar or IOR would be a fine choice.

 

both are substantially better than the conquest and VX's IMO.

 

the kahles is a wonderful scope and has the same glass & coatings as their 1300+ dollar scopes.

 

you can't go wrong w/ any of these three scope.

 

J

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With the kahles scopes, the moderatly priced ones have 1" tubes.  they are comparable to the ziess conquest scopes. which is better in the 4.5-14 X 50 range

 



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only advantage of the 30mm tube is range of adjustments. it is not any brighter, in fact the 1 inch kahles is a good bit brighter than the 30mm conquest.

 

the kahles is the best scope. without a doubt.

 

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Originally posted by jonbravado jonbravado wrote:

only advantage of the 30mm tube is range of adjustments. it is not any brighter, in fact the 1 inch kahles is a good bit brighter than the 30mm conquest.

 

the kahles is the best scope. without a doubt.

 

J

 

+1, Kahles over Conquest

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