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    Posted: February/05/2009 at 09:41
Just ordered this one off the sample list. Can't wait to try it out.

6846Kahles 3-10x50 Helia CL Multizero51723, Matte finish, 1" tube, plex reticle, side focus, fast focus eye piece, allows you to zero your scope at five different ranges, close to new condition. $1,315.00 $749.95

I am going to try it on my new Savage 14 Classic in 270 wsm.  If it doesn't fit to suit me I stick in on something else.

Any opinions on this scope or combination?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lucytuma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/05/2009 at 09:48
You'll love the glass, its very good.  The only thing I don't like about mine is the muli-zero part, its to complicated for my taste and requires a special tool to adjust.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote jladams Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/05/2009 at 10:02
I figure I may never actually use the multi-zero feature. As long as I can set it for MPBR and it never drift I am happy. Might nice to play with though.

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Has anyone here ever done a direct comparison of the glass quality of this scope vs. Conquest glass? I hope the Kahles is better and I will be able to do a direct comparison my my Kahles arrives. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote brodeur272 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/05/2009 at 10:45
Have 3 Cls, think the glass is really nice.  Haven't had a Conquest to compare it to.  The Sample List prices are pretty good though...
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Holy Mackeral!!  Bucky
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

Holy Mackeral!!  Bucky

Is a Holy Mackeral something emitted by a priest, or did you mean a Holy Mackerel, which could swim in Holy Water?


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However, mackeral is also correct... spanish mackeral.
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I would like to look thru a Kahles too......I like to keep it simple.....I have looked thru Trijicon and Zeiss side by side and I have to say that the trijicon glass to my eye is a little better.
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Originally posted by jladams jladams wrote:

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I have owned both and IMO the Kahles is better than the Conquest, both optically and physically. The only scope I have that I like better than the Kahles is a Zeiss Victory, which I think is the best scope I have ever used.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tip69 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/05/2009 at 20:44

Congrats on the new CL...... If you're like me, you're gonna really like that scope, especially it's low-light performance!  I also have a Conquest 3-9X40 and other than low-light, I have not seen much of a difference, BUT, I really haven't tried to compare them side-be-side other than when sighting them in.  I'm pretty sure the CL would come out on top though!

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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

Congrats on the new CL...... If you're like me, you're gonna really like that scope, especially it's low-light performance!  I also have a Conquest 3-9X40 and other than low-light, I have not seen much of a difference, BUT, I really haven't tried to compare them side-be-side other than when sighting them in.  I'm pretty sure the CL would come out on top though!



The lowlight performance is what I am after. I don't need anything much better than the conquest, but anything noticeably better will make me very happy.

I am quite anxious about this.

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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

The Spelling Police... BUSTED.
However, mackeral is also correct... spanish mackeral.

If you refer to the fish, I think it is also spelled 'mackerel.'

There is a Spanish Mackeral, of course. If one of Spanish descent eats a mackerel, and subsequently emits an odorous effluent, that is called a Spanish Mackeral.


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You will see a difference with the Kahles on top. In very low light I was really pleased with the increased contrast of the Kahles. You will be very happy. I like the Multi-zero because I can set at different even yardages and still be able to interpret mid distance corrections by looking at the dials.

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Originally posted by 3_tens 3_tens wrote:

 I like the Multi-zero because I can set at different even yardages and still be able to interpret mid distance corrections by looking at the dials.



Interesting. Can you explain how you do this?

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If the bottom ring is locked at 100 yds, and the 2nd -5th are locked at 100 yd intervals out to 500 yds. If you can get that much range with the caliber you are shooting with one turn of the turret that you are limited to with the multi-zero locked. Then if the target is at 275 you will be slightly over 3/4 the distance between the 2nd and 3rd ring markers. It is like having a ballistic turret with even 100 yd increments marked. Or what ever yardage you set the locking rings. With a little practice you should be within 1/2-3 inches. plenty good for hunting. With a 270win at 400 yds you will be at 20 clicks elevation and at 500 29 clicks elevation. range of 475 will be at 26 .5 clicks Just over 3/4 of the difference.

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3_tens, can you explain how that mulitzero thing works.  I got the A setting zeroed, but I'm not sure if I was supposed to start with the settings in a certian place, like all lined up.  The directions are a little vague to me, but I really like the concept!  Not sure if it matters, but I have the CL 2-7X36 model.
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