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Just ordered this one off the sample list. Can't wait to try it out.

6846Kahles 3-10x50 Helia CL Multizero51723, Matte finish, 1" tube, plex reticle, side focus, fast focus eye piece, allows you to zero your scope at five different ranges, close to new condition. $1,315.00 $749.95

I am going to try it on my new Savage 14 Classic in 270 wsm.  If it doesn't fit to suit me I stick in on something else.

Any opinions on this scope or combination?

Jack
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You'll love the glass, its very good.  The only thing I don't like about mine is the muli-zero part, its to complicated for my taste and requires a special tool to adjust.

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I figure I may never actually use the multi-zero feature. As long as I can set it for MPBR and it never drift I am happy. Might nice to play with though.

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How do I edit my post? I don't see an edit button.
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Has anyone here ever done a direct comparison of the glass quality of this scope vs. Conquest glass? I hope the Kahles is better and I will be able to do a direct comparison my my Kahles arrives. 
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Have 3 Cls, think the glass is really nice.  Haven't had a Conquest to compare it to.  The Sample List prices are pretty good though...
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Holy Mackeral!!  Bucky
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Originally posted by Ed Connelly Ed Connelly wrote:

Holy Mackeral!!  Bucky

Is a Holy Mackeral something emitted by a priest, or did you mean a Holy Mackerel, which could swim in Holy Water?
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The Spelling Police... BUSTED.
However, mackeral is also correct... spanish mackeral.
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I would like to look thru a Kahles too......I like to keep it simple.....I have looked thru Trijicon and Zeiss side by side and I have to say that the trijicon glass to my eye is a little better.
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Originally posted by jladams jladams wrote:

How do I edit my post? I don't see an edit button.
 
The forum is configured so that you cannot edit or delete your posts or post pics until you have at least 50 posts.  If you need to edit a post, you can PM one of the moderators with how you want the post to be changed and we'll edit it for you.
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I have owned both and IMO the Kahles is better than the Conquest, both optically and physically. The only scope I have that I like better than the Kahles is a Zeiss Victory, which I think is the best scope I have ever used.
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The Spelling Police... BUSTED.
However, mackeral is also correct... spanish mackeral.
 
It was supposed to be 'macaroni' !!!    Roll on Floor Laughing  
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Congrats on the new CL...... If you're like me, you're gonna really like that scope, especially it's low-light performance!  I also have a Conquest 3-9X40 and other than low-light, I have not seen much of a difference, BUT, I really haven't tried to compare them side-be-side other than when sighting them in.  I'm pretty sure the CL would come out on top though!

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Originally posted by Tip69 Tip69 wrote:

Congrats on the new CL...... If you're like me, you're gonna really like that scope, especially it's low-light performance!  I also have a Conquest 3-9X40 and other than low-light, I have not seen much of a difference, BUT, I really haven't tried to compare them side-be-side other than when sighting them in.  I'm pretty sure the CL would come out on top though!



The lowlight performance is what I am after. I don't need anything much better than the conquest, but anything noticeably better will make me very happy.

I am quite anxious about this.

Jack
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

The Spelling Police... BUSTED.
However, mackeral is also correct... spanish mackeral.

If you refer to the fish, I think it is also spelled 'mackerel.'

There is a Spanish Mackeral, of course. If one of Spanish descent eats a mackerel, and subsequently emits an odorous effluent, that is called a Spanish Mackeral.
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You will see a difference with the Kahles on top. In very low light I was really pleased with the increased contrast of the Kahles. You will be very happy. I like the Multi-zero because I can set at different even yardages and still be able to interpret mid distance corrections by looking at the dials.

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Originally posted by 3_tens 3_tens wrote:

 I like the Multi-zero because I can set at different even yardages and still be able to interpret mid distance corrections by looking at the dials.



Interesting. Can you explain how you do this?

Jack
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If the bottom ring is locked at 100 yds, and the 2nd -5th are locked at 100 yd intervals out to 500 yds. If you can get that much range with the caliber you are shooting with one turn of the turret that you are limited to with the multi-zero locked. Then if the target is at 275 you will be slightly over 3/4 the distance between the 2nd and 3rd ring markers. It is like having a ballistic turret with even 100 yd increments marked. Or what ever yardage you set the locking rings. With a little practice you should be within 1/2-3 inches. plenty good for hunting. With a 270win at 400 yds you will be at 20 clicks elevation and at 500 29 clicks elevation. range of 475 will be at 26 .5 clicks Just over 3/4 of the difference.

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3_tens, can you explain how that mulitzero thing works.  I got the A setting zeroed, but I'm not sure if I was supposed to start with the settings in a certian place, like all lined up.  The directions are a little vague to me, but I really like the concept!  Not sure if it matters, but I have the CL 2-7X36 model.
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No just send that scope to me. Ok ............ All right I will try to explain it. I hate to type.
Take off he dust cover. Use the two prongs of the multi tool to rotate the arrow on top to the letter A. Sight in your rifle at your base distance. 50 yds if you have it on a rimfire. 100 or 200 yds on a center fire rifle. After getting your zero Hold the turret and use the tool to turn the dial to the B position. This will unlock the turret so you can turn the outer rings counter clock wise until it stops. Then with the multi tool turn the dial to the C position. This will lock the dial where the bottom is at your desired zero, and it will give you only one full turn of elevation. Then calculate your clicks  then shoot to verify your mid range stops. Example would be the base at 100 yds after finding 200 yds, Put the multi tool on the bottom silver ring and place it over the indicator arrow on the scope body. Count the clicks to your calculated 300 yd, shoot to verify and set by turning the second silver ring to the indicator arrow repeat for 400 and 500yds. This will set your indicators for your desired yardages.  If you need longer yardages than you can get with only one turn of the turret it is Nessary to start at a higher base yardage like 200 yds. If you would sell that scope to me I would set it for a 17HMR. and save you all the trouble you will have to set it up.  Whistling
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I have had both. The conquest is very good but the Kahles CL is better. I now replaced both Kahles CL not KX.
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Get the Kahles CL not the KX. The KX is good, but the CL series is better. I had two conquest and replaced both of them with Kahles Multizero.
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Thanks for the offer 3_tens, but I think I figured it out!  Will check to make sure next time I go out to the range.  Speaking of a 17HMR, I really like that little round.  After sighting in and shooting my Rem 700 Mtn in .260 for the first time and getting the A mode setting zeroed in, I shot about 40 rounds with my Savage 9317.  Talk about a fun little gun to shoot!  Shot it at 50 & 100 yards.  That guy is dialed in! I need to set my trigger down a bit, it was considerably heavier than my 700 that is set at about 3.5 lbs.  I considered putting that 2-7 on it, but I have a Redfield Golden 5 Star with AO on it now and it works great!  It shot a little high at 50 and a little low at 100.  I can hit a squirrel in the head holding dead on at both ranges.   Which I was actually able to do several times this past season!
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Can the multi-zero stops be placed on the 2 rotation of the turret or is it limited to the first rotation only?
 
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