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that I have in my hands Vortex Kaibab 15x56 and Swarovski SLCneu 15x56.

I fI do not get a hernea dragging both of these around I'll post a review once I have some more mileage with them.  So far, I am impressed with both.

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Thanks for the heads up! I for one cant wait to hear the results!!!! Get Your Popcorn Ready
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

that I have in my hands Vortex Kaibab 15x56 and Swarovski SLCneu 15x56.

So far, I am impressed with both. Yep, Thought So

ILya
 
I have wanted the Swarovski SLC 15x56 WB for a number of years, I have been curious about the Vortex 15x56 as well.
 
Looking forward to your reviews.  Shocked
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I normally do not use any binos with mags higher than 10x. It gets way to shaky for my need.  Interested to hear how you experience using them without a tripod.
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Originally posted by Tranan Tranan wrote:

I normally do not use any binos with mags higher than 10x. It gets way to shaky for my need.  Interested to hear how you experience using them without a tripod.

I am not even going to try using them without a tripod.  I have a hard time holding 10x binocular unsupported for any length of time.  Big eye binoculars like this are a "tripod only" proposition in my mind.  They are designed for prolonged observation at extended ranges.  Using a spotter for a long time can cause considerable fatigue since you are only using one eye.  A high magnification binocular, like the 15x56, does not offer as much magnification as many spotters, but it makes up a lot of ground by using two eyes which helps eye fatigue and low light performance considerably.

ILya
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+1 to what ILya said.

I can use 12x binoculars without a tripod, but even then often support them on shooting sticks--or however I can. Using 15x without a tripod (or window mount or whatever support) is wasted effort because vibration removes the detail the extra X's can provide.

ILya, I'll be very interested in this review. My own 15x binocular has been a Minox 15x58 for some years now. It's quite good but optics technology keeps advancing!

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+2

Used to have Steiner 15x56 Big Horns...way too much shake without some kind of support or rest. Whacko
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ILya,

I REALLY look forward to this review.

Cheers
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Originally posted by Tranan Tranan wrote:

I normally do not use any binos with mags higher than 10x. It gets way to shaky for my need.  Interested to hear how you experience using them without a tripod.

I am not even going to try using them without a tripod.  I have a hard time holding 10x binocular unsupported for any length of time.  Big eye binoculars like this are a "tripod only" proposition in my mind.  They are designed for prolonged observation at extended ranges.  Using a spotter for a long time can cause considerable fatigue since you are only using one eye.  A high magnification binocular, like the 15x56, does not offer as much magnification as many spotters, but it makes up a lot of ground by using two eyes which helps eye fatigue and low light performance considerably.

ILya
 
I am definitely with you now man!
I am a very heavy spotting scope user and wether it is because I got use to it or because I use very high quality optics I rarely experience the eye fatigue. I could not understand why the firms produce binos of such high mags when one could use a spotting scope instead. I get your point but to me they still seem rather usless compare to grabbing even a cheaper spotting scope alternative with you in the field. 
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