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Has anyone here had any time behind one these?  I'd buy one but I would have to sell my truck first, to get the one I want.


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I believe that whoever they are, they believe in the P.T. Barnum axiom "there's a sucker born every minute."  LOL
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They have counter sniper crusader scopes on mid-ways site and the 4-16 model goes for $379.  Where on the Counter sniper web site it goes from $450 to $3200 WOW.  Those who rated them are giving them mixed reviews. 

A guy had one at one of my precision rifle classes and it did not do to well.  He was fighting his zero all weekend and I don't think it passed the box test.  I wouldn't waste money on one.
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The impressions of people who have used these have been mixed at best. 

As for me personally, I have not used one, but they pretty much lost me on the following phrases (off of their website):

Bertrillium-Zantitium™
water/ice displacement coating
Ion-charge for ant-static dust displacement
Proprietary rare earth/nitrogen gas purged
hard earth sealed

Translation: all of those phrases imply that the scope will go its Bertrillium-Zantitium tits up at the worst possible moment and you will have to hire a bloody Sherlock Holmes to find the snake oil salesmen who sold you the damn thing in the first place.

I'd love to be wrong on this one, but they are not seeing a dime of my money until some reputable people look at these.

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Even Google cant find Zantitium except in advertizing for their scopes ??? must be a secret militay coating
 
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Their distributer seems to have a cell phone 866.883.9444  number in Springfield Mo.  but no address there. The area code for Springfield for landlines is 417 , must be more secret military stuff.
 
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Ion charge to repel ant-static? Does that work on fire ants?
 
Contract over run? What's the NSN?
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I've seen their ads in a few shooting mags, and after my b.s.-o-meter started redlining upon reading how the thing was made of fricken kryptonite, I saw the price tag at the bottom of the page and wondered "what idiot would pay that for an obscure tactical scope when you can buy a very good USO or S&B for much less?"  Their lingo sounds like something concocted by a used car salesman (no offense to used car salesmen).
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I saw some chatter on Sniper Central about those.

Like Koshkin stated, very mixed reviews.

 
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I think there address is area 51
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There is no Area 51...
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Anti-mirage???? does that mean it don't like it ...or just ignores it?? I'd have to pass on a scope that comes with "Gov Issued" on it....my experience (humble that it is) with Gov Issue items is ....OVER PRICED--Under Achiever products..
+ 1 on the snake oil salesman..Loco
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Oh ! I forgot the 5000g rating.....that means I could drag it behind my 68 Ram-Air Firebird on a 12.05 run...and it would still ignore the Mirage?
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Originally posted by reloader243 reloader243 wrote:

Oh ! I forgot the 5000g rating.....that means I could drag it behind my 68 Ram-Air Firebird on a 12.05 run...and it would still ignore the Mirage?

5000g rating? Sorry, I missed that one. 75+ g's is hard for IC's to withstand. Must be that new metal they are using... totally defies the laws of physics, unless it comes in a compressed glob, already, because at 5000g that's how it's going to end up.
Would LOVE to see the test data on that.
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top secret alloys from little green men held captive at the non existent area 51Trust%20Me
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Originally posted by reloader243 reloader243 wrote:

Oh ! I forgot the 5000g rating.....that means I could drag it behind my 68 Ram-Air Firebird on a 12.05 run...and it would still ignore the Mirage?
 
We need pics of the '68 Firebird....please.
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They did not say who`s military overrun,  China??
 
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Looking up the address of Dark op in Springfield--WARRANTEE SERVICE RETURN ADDRESS
COUNTERSNIPER C/O D.O.H.
2231 W. SUNSET
Google maps finds a vacant area on Sunset street, must be more secret military stuff
 
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This is a top supplier of mall ninja equipment....very secretive stuff.
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"Long a primary Soviet nuclear impact target due to the creation of optical sighting systems for satellites, spy planes and now digital imaging devices"
 
I don't know guys.... This statement alone must mean they are pretty important, maybe you are just too critical.
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If you look real close in the fine print it says" Former manufacturer of depleted uranium hocky-pucks and other various failed military items"....ie..aluminum bludgening tool---it broke the 1st swat...,USAF...aluminum "pee-tube" for failed B-33 one engined strategic flying lawn chair..(They now use the "pee-tube "...used of course..as their new Tactical scope)...THAT my friends is one IMPORTANT company...Ask them....they'll tell you..They don't show up on any map, cause they are so secret, THEY...don"t even know where they are at...and it is stated..."You can't get there form here"...when you "Google Them"Down%20the%20Toilet
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OK...who lives close??  Somebody go visit their shop, I think you have to take the phone booth elevator to get there, and report back.  Surely somebody lives nearby.  It would be worth a visit just for the "fun factor".
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Did RMS go in the scope biz back close to Kodiak
 
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How could anyone pass up a warranty like this?
 
"The CMOG Titanium Line is the only tactical riflescope in the world UNCONDITIONALLY warranted for life. Battle damage, bomb damage, even bullet impacts are covered. If it is damaged unworkable, send it to us and we will fix it or give you a new one."
 
Of course it only applies to the "titanium" models and they are priced about 1000% higher than the aluminum versions.
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Roll%20on%20Floor%20Laughing   Stop, y'all are killing me!  RMS Optics supply, with a free box of TSXs with every purchase.     ROFL
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