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much said about this in comparisons with other brands etc. kind of like a glock, -- with the wide swings in pros and cons (and I'm sure all the reporters are reputable one wonders if extremes are caused by quality control0) wanted to try the new dials so-9x36x56 mp8 floating dot.
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So, what's your impression of the scope, Dale?
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ive got a better question, what the hell kind of rifle is that??? that thing looks killer
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inital- fit, finish overall -- flow with gun -- excellent.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

ive got a better question, what the hell kind of rifle is that??? that thing looks killer
 
Sako TRG
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Dale, you've dropped some serious cash on toys lately, huh, buddy...
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sako trg ive heard of them, .308 i suppose
i wanted a trg-s in a lazzeroni caliber at one time


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300 win mag-- 1/11 twist, 210 bergers around 2900 fps.

scope- fathers day present.

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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

scope- fathers day present.
 
Damn, you've got some really thoughtful family members!
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Nice rig, Mr. Clifford.
 
Nicer yet is your family.  Thunbs%20Up 
They must think the world of you.
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I do like the new knobs IOR is now using... at least I think I do, based on the pics.
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On mine the clicks on the big knob are really definitive and smooth.  The side knob is still the mushy feeling knob like on my old 6-24x, I don't care for that one as much.  
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 Hummm I did'nt even get the lousey t-shirt ... let alone an expensive scope .... Sad   Still looking for my SWFA catalog .... hummmm ....

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Damn, you've got some really thoughtful family members!
 
they went on vacation without me -- so i got it , to get even
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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

Damn, you've got some really thoughtful family members!
 
they went on vacation without me -- so i got it , to get even
 
Roll%20on%20Floor%20Laughing Excellent 
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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

Damn, you've got some really thoughtful family members!
 
they went on vacation without me -- so i got it , to get even
 
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while less power variables are more popular-- this magnification range is very competitive and a hard one to compete in. 8 to something. not going to include the s&b and uso as but mostly the leo and night force,  (and if you want to go the additional cost of a conquest, the diavari 6x24x56) this is a tuff field.
first 100 rds.
the scope has a definite yellow tint in the glass, the ior web site states that this is special schott glass for gamma radiation--- boy is that something to think about. -- what does it do start to glow to warn the shooter???
the side (they even call it a focus) has a very fast thread pitch, making depth of field on any power higher than 18 almost impossible. -- except seeing bullet holes at 300-400 yds, not a bad thing in all as the image quality from 9x18 is outstanding -- after that it acts like a different scope.
the large power ring is outstanding and out does all of them
the illumination suffers from ior haze but is bright enough to use in the daylight- so this is a big plus for me.
the elevation knob only has something like 50 moa and it was necessary to use 10 moa in the scope reticle to get to 1000 yd. so the scope is being switched over to a gun having a 20 moa base.-- but the knob is large enough to do 20 moa in one turn.
all detents are positive
the mp8 reticle is outstanding, but the 10 moa cross bar has fuzzys as well as some of the lowers, this is a real quality control problem. - will try to show a picture.
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sighted in, on 36 power the scope would go out of focus with every shot, also on 24 power, (first two targets) on 12 power shot the group on the far right. (if interested this is the last 5 rds. of a 300 rd string using moly bullets with no cleaning).
also tried to get some close ups of the reticle , the second longer bar on the left side. looks like a piece of frazeled rope.
what do you think?
1-leave on a nuns door step
2-send it back to check out (yet another) cs
3-try to trade it for a leo.
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refusing to give up, after all I got some ruger #1s to shoot accurately, I removed the scope and twisted the power ring back and forth about a 100 times and stood the scope on the front bell, places golf balls on the top and teed-- just kidding -- run the hair dryer up and down the tube until hot to the touch. after cooling the power ring was much smoother and could be turned with the thumb and fore finger. after re-mounting, and site in the scope was still loosing focus at 36 with each shoot, but the focus problem was noticably reduced at the 24 x setting. 50 shots were used to test the repeatability of the elevation, which worked correctly each time.  

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Send it back to Val and make him fix it or replace it.

ILya
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probably will, currently testing it as is, some interesting things

after first rd. at 36 focus is lost but can still see blurred bullet holes, continuing with 5 shot groups gives expected small group size, but if refocused poi changes.

large elevation knob is great, at 12x first shot 600 yds. hits, 100% , going back and forth between shots to 100 yds.

no lose of elevation correction going from highest power to lowest power, (execpt for expected poi shift due to sfp).

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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

Damn, you've got some really thoughtful family members!
 
they went on vacation without me -- so i got it , to get even


Finally getting around to this one and that is one of the best around here in awhile.
That's too bad about the scope. I hope Val does you good.
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If I mentioned is somewhere in the thread, were did you get this as I was told none made it to the country yet?  Sorry to hear about the problems as I am waiting on the 4-28x56
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I get so much stuff from a certain gun dealer they owe me their first child.
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been almost 3 weeks called IOR colorado, they couldn't find the scope, didn't know what state of "fix" it was in-- but they would get back to me.
got to say it= wait-- if it had of been a leo it would be back by now.
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