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How does the IOR Valdada 6x42 Tactical Scope compare with the Kahles ZF95 6x42 TT scope?  I had heard that you carried the Kahles ZF95 scope at one time but I do not see it under your Kahles listing now.  Are the scopes roughly equal to each other or is one clearly superior?  A local gunshop has the ZF95 on sale for $899 and while the scope seemed nice I don't think that it is worth that much money.  How do the two scope compare in terms of optical clarity, brightness, ruggedness and accuracy of adjustments?  I have looked through the IOR 8x56 scope before, my brother has one, but not the 6x42.  I have just recently looked through the ZF95 6x42 but I have not had a chance to compare them side by side.   Since you have carried both scopes, I was wondering how you rated both scope against each other?  Another question I have is about the IOR 6x42 turrets, are they the exposed type or do they come with caps.  My brother's IOR 8x56 did not come with caps.  If they do come with caps, do they caps have to be on to maintain the waterproof rating?  Thanks. 

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The Kahles is superior optically and mechanically.  The ZF scopes are first class all the way and well worth $899.  The only draw back is the bullet drop dial kinda limits you.

 

The IOR comes with covers and is water proof with or with out them.IOR Valdada 6x42 Tactical

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Khales zf95 tactical is costly.

I dont know the IOR 6x42, but I have 1 IOR 2.5-10x42,two 4-14x50 and one 6-24x50 and are great scopes ( steel tube, magnum lock, tactical turrets, sunshade and german Schott glass) .The only IOR I dont like is the 10x42 , because is has a yellow tint image.

 Last models IOR are far better than old ones, so, get sure your 6x42 is a "new line"-   

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I have owned 2 IOR scopes. I used to be a big fan of them, but have cooled off a little.

 

One, a true tactical scope "should" be a FFP reticle. Especially when a mil dot or equivalent is used.

I know this is a statement that a lot of folks wont agree with, and thats cool.

 

IOR used to be FFP mostly, but have changed over to RFP reticles for some reason. Probably American shooters demanding RFP instead. No harm in building scopes the way people want them.

 

Eye relief on IOR's is not that great. They claim 3.75" on some models, but I beg to differ. My .300 Win mag was a real challenge to keep off my eye. Especially at 10x.

 

IOR's American distributor, Val, can be "fickle" to deal with as well. I had an issue that was clearly IOR's quality control problem. Val fixed it, and returned it promptly.

 

Other friends of mine have had problems, and Val wasn't too keen on rectifying the issue. And only did so after the distributor got involved and hassled Val to fix it. He relented.

 

These issues were clearly problems with the scope, and weren't operator error or abuse in any way.  

 

Any way, IOR's a good entry level scope for a low recoil rifle. .308 comes to mind.

Big kickers need to go anougher direction, IMO......On the good side.

The adjustments on both of my scopes were accurate.

Glass was good to very good.

Tough scope. Very tough.

MP8 reticle is one of my all time favorites. Very easy and user friendly.

Lit reticle I had in one scope was average. Not near as good as my S&B L7 though....FWIW



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I doubt anyone on this forum would buy an IOR if they spent 10 minutes in Romania.

 

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I've been to Romania.  It seemed a farily typical Eastern European country.

 

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I have been all over eastern europe, loved it all.  One exception was Romania.  I can't really go into details here but child exploitation by  parents is just the tip of the iceberg.  As morally bankrupt of a society as you can get.  And the poorest excuse that I have ever seen for manufacturing standards.  Granted, it has been years since I was there and they could have improved their manufacturing.  But, I don't believe they have improved their other wide-spread problems.  This has recently resurfaced as an issue for me after speaking with people who have been there in the past few months.

 

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I think you've just described most of eastern Europe.  I grew up in Russia and I spent a fair amount of time in eastern european countries.  If you think Romania is bad, visit Moldova: same basic culture as Romanians, but raped by 70 years of Soviet Union.

Some countries there are more tourist friendly then others, but deep down they are all very similar. 

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Point taken.  I just saw where other countries were making strives forward.  I also witnessed a few things in Romania that I would just as soon not known about.

 

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In truth they all are making strides forward.  Checz Republic and Slovakia being the most likely to get ahead of others.  However, it will probably take several generations to really get the ghost of communism behind us.  IOR actually makes a decent product, IMO.  Given a choice, I am generally very unlikely to buy a product by an industrialized European nation (France or Germany, for example).  For a product like IOR scopes, and additional consideration is that I am investing in their economy.  And for an economy in that condition, every bit helps.

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Dear ranburr

the point is optic cuality....not politics...........you can hate romania, but IOR makes very good scopes ( with similar or better cuality than american made scopes and far better than asia made ones ).

I dont know any other (6x42) TRUE tactical scope with  IOR 6X42 cuality for less than u$379....

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Originally posted by ots03 ots03 wrote:

Dear ranburr

the point is optic cuality....not politics...........you can hate romania, but IOR makes very good scopes ( with similar or better cuality than american made scopes and far better than asia made ones ).

I dont know any other (6x42) TRUE tactical scope with  IOR 6X42 cuality for less than u$379....



IOR's are a great bang for the buck, no doubt. But if it weren't for the cheap price, they wouldn't be selling nearly as well.

I don't feel they could charge the same price as a NXS, Nikon Tactical, Mark 4 and still sell scopes.
IOR's not in the same league with those guys. Especially the NF. IMO
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