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There's so much anger and resentment brewing during this election year, and much of it is bringing about some negative things including untrue statements that produce fear. Although as of now it appears as though Obama may win this election, many of the fears about him are unnecessary. Sure Obama leans too much to the left, but I don't believe that we have to fear that he is Marxist or hates America at all. I also feel a bit assured that the public is not that gullible to unwillingly support a Marxist for president. I really think that Obama is sincere in his ambitions for America. Even though he's not heading in the direction we prefer, I'm pretty confident that he won't destroy the American way of life or what we stand for. Should we fear for the 2nd Amendment? Absolutely. But many of the other fears are way over-exaggerated. Even a Democratic-controlled House and Senate would never allow a president to get away with what the rumors suggest he intends to do. Let's not hate Obama. Even if we strongly do not agree with him, let's at least realize that he is following his sincere ambitions for America. Go to the polls and cast your vote, but if McCain doesn't win, don't fear for the end of America as we know it.

My biggest fear is that as Americans, we remain divided. I am a dedicated McCain supporter and I had written to his office years ago requesting that he run for office before the vast majority of people ever even heard of him. But even as a dedicated McCain supporter, if Obama wins the election by a vote that reflects the will of the people, I believe that the best we all can do is keep in mind our differences, respect one another, and continue to support one another for a united America.

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ARE YOU QUITTING ON ME PRIVATE PYLE?!!? ARE YOU REALLY QUITTING ON ME, PRIVATE PYLE?!?! GET THE f**k OFF MY OBSTACLE!!
 
In all sincerity, this is the saddest post I have read on this forum to date. 
You should be ashamed of even thinking like that, let alone posting sh*t like that for all the world to see, opticsmike.
You'll probably get "fragged" for posting your resignation on here when The Hive sees this thread.     
 
I don't want to be divided with my fellow Americans, but I refuse to just lay down, go along and get along with forces that are trying desperately to turn this nation into another Communist state. 
 
As has been said before, "America is freedoms last stand".
 
With your attitude, our forefathers would have just let the British rule over them. Might as well just get along, right? Wink Dont want to be divided, right? Shocked
No Boston Tea Party, no Revolutionary War, No battle of Bunker Hill, nor Yorktown either, right?  
 
More later.....


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Mark I am with you on this. Apathy on the part of those who favor freedom is no option. The high road is what is leading us into hell as we speak. Taking the high road????? Who is defining what the high road is?????? The LIBERALS ARE THAT'S WHO!!!!!! LOVE AMERICA and LOVE FREEDOM, or shut up sit down in the back of the bus and let the ones that have the BALLS to live free make the decisions. Our fore fathers were likewise divided by the right course, we will have a decision to make very soon, and it won't be the decision at the ballot box. I know where I stand, and I know what will be required of me. I will make the required sacrifice for freedom and America. The only question then is who else????? I can't do it by myself, but if I am alone in this I will do it knowing I will fail just the same. This poses the question, who else is so strongly in love with his Country and the very things that define freedom that he would do the same????? 
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Originally posted by opticsmike opticsmike wrote:

There's so much anger and resentment brewing during this election year, and much of it is bringing about some negative things including untrue statements that produce fear. Although as of now it appears as though Obama may win this election, many of the fears about him are unnecessary. Sure Obama leans too much to the left, but I don't believe that we have to fear that he is Marxist or hates America at all. I also feel a bit assured that the public is not that gullible to unwillingly support a Marxist for president. I really think that Obama is sincere in his ambitions for America. Even though he's not heading in the direction we prefer, I'm pretty confident that he won't destroy the American way of life or what we stand for. Should we fear for the 2nd Amendment? Absolutely. But many of the other fears are way over-exaggerated. Even a Democratic-controlled House and Senate would never allow a president to get away with what the rumors suggest he intends to do. Let's not hate Obama. Even if we strongly do not agree with him, let's at least realize that he is following his sincere ambitions for America. Go to the polls and cast your vote, but if McCain doesn't win, don't fear for the end of America as we know it.


My biggest fear is that as Americans, we remain divided. I am a dedicated McCain supporter and I had written to his office years ago requesting that he run for office before the vast majority of people ever even heard of him. But even as a dedicated McCain supporter, if Obama wins the election by a vote that reflects the will of the people, I believe that the best we all can do is keep in mind our differences, respect one another, and continue to support one another for a united America.



I've been told I work too much,need to get out more. YOU, need to read more than the trash in newpapers, or you are a stealth liberal...or worse. When one makes a concerted effort to discover the truth about Obama, it is clear that he loathes the real "American Way"...you know the liberally hated "truth, justice...all that stuff". Obama has stated that (paraphrased) "if things start to go badly, I will have to stand with the Muslims". His preachings are not Marxist, they are communist/socialist...read "The Communist Manifesto". I HAVE.
"his sincere ambitions for America". Perhaps the truest statement you made in your little spiel. HIS sincere ambitions for America are Euro/Asian communist/socialist. Obama was a registered member of the socialist party, much of the information is now concealed by our "mainstream media". Why is Obama unwilling to produce his birth certificate? The one shown on the internet has been stated a fake by every legitimate forensic document reviewer. There is a democrat senator SUING to force Obama to produce a legitimate birth cetificate...which if he had one he could easily do...but Obama has refused, repeatedly. There is a reported recording of a conversation with Obama's "sick" grandmother where she admits being present at his birth in Kenya.
Howard Stern did a survey in Harlem questioning people why they supported Obama and almost to a person they stated "because I like his policies and his decision making". However, when the questioner stated "so you have no problems with the fact that Obama is very pro-life (he is pro-abortion), wants to increase funding for Iraq and send more troops (he of course does not), and you have no problem that he selected Sarah Palin, the Governor of Alaska, as his running mate?", to a person the answers were "oh no, we support those policies, too... we think that is right", AND "we really like Sarah Palin". So much for informed Americans.
I could go on and on about how the education system is so dumbed down there are few thinking people coming out of college anymore (some actually learn to think after they get out, some never do), but the point is, everything you stated is fiction.
Quit eating loco weed.
YOU need to read more...at least more history, not historical fiction.

"The tree of liberty must sometime be watered with the blood of Patriots"... I'm in.

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First of all, I am completely with you. I am no liberal by any means. I urged McCain to run before he was a thought for most people. I have read about everything that's been said about Obama and it has made me very angry, but after looking into most of the things I've read, about all of it either has no way to be verified or is found to be untrue and I feel that the anger that resulted from what I've read was unnecessary. I need verifiable information that supports Obama as a Marxist that hates America. I've been down that road and I need substantial and verifiable information that supports Obama's intent to make the US a Communist state before I that we are justifiably on our way to another Boston Tea Party. Whereas the Boston Tea Party was necessary because of taxation without representation, today we can vote and the will of the people still determines the direction of our country.

I believe the real issue is not at all about whether or not the will of the people is being served, but that the people themselves are the issue. Liberalism is like a disease that tends to spread more readily with increased population density. It's about how we choose to live that affects what we ask of the government. If we live conservatively and don't get in over our heads in life having more babies than we can well enough support, then we begin having to live in unnaturally condensed living environments. With increased population density there is more strife, and with more strife there is more need for assistance, and with more need for assistance there is more asked of the government, all brought about due to people getting in over their heads and becoming no longer self-sufficient. They vote for assistance and their will is served. They are enabled to have even more babies while still not being self-sufficient and the condition worsens, all the while they do not understand what they are getting into. Then they see others that are in much better conditions and they feel that they have been alienated, so they vote for socialism and their will is served. Then those that have made conservative life choices also become over-burdened and their will is tested by a broken system. Yes socialism is fundamentally broken and can never work because it uses the product of conservative choices to feed ever-growing irresponsibility until the will of those that make conservative choices no longer exists. The root of the this disease is not within our government and it's not Obama, it's the people themselves and their will is represented with their vote.

We can not get caught up in anger and resentment. If we really want to make a change, we have to reach out to others and help them to understand conservative life choices.

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Why is everyone so caught up in "making a change" .  This country does not need a change, it just needs some improvement.
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Isn't that the truth! I think the only change that needs to be made is attitude.
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If B.O. wins, at best we have Jimmy Carter II at worst the Anti Christ. I survived
Carter, very few will survive the Anti Christ. The problem is I can only suspect which one he is, do my part for McCain, and vote. After that all I can do is try to survive, be it tighten my belt and survive Carter II or pick up a weapon and defend my Freedom, or anything in between. I hope we can stop B.O. at the ballot box, if not, I can only react to his actions.
I have made myself sick worrying about past elections being on both the winning and losing sides, and I'm still here. I promised myself that I was not going to worry about this election like I have in the past, and I'm having trouble keeping it. I just take comfort that whatever happens is Gods Will, and there is nothing I can do to stop it, just take part in it.
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Originally posted by opticsmike opticsmike wrote:

There's so much anger and resentment brewing during this election year, and much of it is bringing about some negative things including untrue statements that produce fear. Although as of now it appears as though Obama may win this election, many of the fears about him are unnecessary. Sure Obama leans too much to the left, but I don't believe that we have to fear that he is Marxist or hates America at all. I also feel a bit assured that the public is not that gullible to unwillingly support a Marxist for president. I really think that Obama is sincere in his ambitions for America. Even though he's not heading in the direction we prefer, I'm pretty confident that he won't destroy the American way of life or what we stand for. Should we fear for the 2nd Amendment? Absolutely. But many of the other fears are way over-exaggerated. Even a Democratic-controlled House and Senate would never allow a president to get away with what the rumors suggest he intends to do. Let's not hate Obama. Even if we strongly do not agree with him, let's at least realize that he is following his sincere ambitions for America. Go to the polls and cast your vote, but if McCain doesn't win, don't fear for the end of America as we know it.

My biggest fear is that as Americans, we remain divided. I am a dedicated McCain supporter and I had written to his office years ago requesting that he run for office before the vast majority of people ever even heard of him. But even as a dedicated McCain supporter, if Obama wins the election by a vote that reflects the will of the people, I believe that the best we all can do is keep in mind our differences, respect one another, and continue to support one another for a united America.

......................Fears about Obama unneccessary and OVEREXAGGERATED???? I thoroughly DISAGREE!!!!
 
The fears about Obama ARE justified AND ARE ABSOLUTELY NECCESSARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
HE IS AN EMEMY APPEASING SOCIALIST, which leads to Marxist policies! A well spoken deceiver!!!!
 
Obama`s poor judgement due to his past associations!!........ This crap about "guilt by association" is total BS and a liberal talking point. Did it ever occur to you that Bill Ayers, Wright, Flager, Screwy Louie Farakhan, and others SAW something in Obama, WHICH closely parrallels their own beliefs? These people ARE America haters!!! PERIOD!
 
A 20 year membership in a church that preaches "hate and garbage." And Obama didn`t know what his preacher was preaching???.. BS!! This preacher married him and baptized his kids!! POOR JUDGEMENT! Obviously, he agreed with Wright OR he wouldn`t have stayed with that church for 20 years!!! Obama ONLY, when politically necessary to do so, THEN denounced Wright. He was forced politically to do so!
 
Bill Ayers was NOT just a guy "in the neighborhood"!!! Obama knew damn well about his past bombings and hate America crimes. Anyone who believes otherwise is NAIVE and stupid! Obama in Ayer`s living room launches his political career in the mid 90`s and sat on the same educational board as Ayers. Obama then distributes millions of dollars, IN THE NAME OF EDUCATION, to other radical education hate America groups, WHILE NOT SOLVING A DAMN THING to improve Chicago`s educational system.
 
Obama`s campaign contributes $800k + to ACORN for the express purposes of ELECTION FRAUD! Nevermind that?.........He knows damn well what ACORN HAS done and IS doing! Palin in her interview with Hannity last night, CHALLENGED Obama to denounce ACORN. HE WON`T! 
 
Obama is very sincere in his ambitions for America???!!! YEAH!!! TO CHANGE AMERICA FOR THE WORSE along with all the other damn liberals...........Re-distribution of wealth and raise taxes on businesses WHO EMPLOY the VERY PEOPLE (the middle class) that he stands up for???!! Raise taxes on businesses=more layoffs of the middle class!......How about another Jimmy Carter or worse?
 
Wake up MIKE!..........YOU under-estimate Obama`s true motives and his destructive plan for America; for liberal control IN ALL ASPECTS of our lives! HIS SINCERE AMBITIONS as you say,,, ARE THE WRONG AMBITIONS for America!!!.............YOU`D better start fearing my friend. A snowball at the top of the hill starts out small and then gathers momentum and grows larger as it goes down the hill.
 
If Obama gets elected, he certainly won`t be my president. Obama is an America hating, Chicago radical, who carefully disguises his motives via well spoken deception, with little senatorial experience, with no executive experience and with no business experience.
 
You`d better worry! If Congress gets loaded with a filibuster proof majority in the house and senate along with that idiot in the White House???????? A super majority???
 
High road??? I would rather have a divided country, rather than to conform to everything that directly conflicts with the principles,,,UNDER WHICH THIS COUNTRY WAS FOUNDED!!!!!
 
OBAMA IS DISHONEST, HAS POOR JUDGEMENT, AND IS A WELL SPOKEN, AMERICA HATING, DECEPTIVE LIBERAL!   
 
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT!!! YOU NEED A SERIOUS, long term and thinking ahead,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,WAKE UP PILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
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Guy's I'm takin a little rope here so please permit me a short Bible lesson.
 
I think everyone would agree that seeing obama where he is, is remarkable to say the least. And we've seen many poeple in history who have managed a loyal following. Even to their death, but this one is here, now and its big. I am absoulutly serious about my Faith and wouldn't offer this if I didn't think it might give some of you some things to ponder. Christ's Bible instructs me to pray for our Gov. and Nation and I do, But some time ago I was frustrated because I wanted the best for our nation and its leaders but at the same time I new from scripture that America would have to be removed or weakened in order for Isreal to be alone against their enimies. So I asked "what should I pray?" and the answer was to simply ask for God's will and stop looking at the mess. I think Big Squeeze just said God will put who he wants in office and that's true at this point, as he usually appoints a leader that the population deserves (good or bad). With how the people have tolerated/supported this anti-christ Gov since the sixties/seventies it isn't realistic to expect a sound God loving leader.
But to show how/why obama is so popular look at this,
 
2nd Thessalonians 2

2:1 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers,  not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 

Keep in mind that these scripture deal with Israel first and then the rest of the world. But they do apply to every Nation. There have been many times that Israel has rebelled and later repented. So it speaks of a latter world wide rebellion preseeding Christ's return. There have been countless men of lawlessness in history but this is also specific to Christ's return.  The son of destruction is reference to "The anti-christ" and he will initially be a man of great appeal and incredible wisdom. Even nigotiating peace for Israel (for a short time).
Also keep in mind that obama is not a good fit for the anti-christ but rather That one who prepares the way for him. satan usually attempts to copy God's way and since Christ first appearence was prepared by John the Babtist, satan wants to copy that interance for his man.
 
who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God. Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?
 
After he gains control of the "New World Order" he will become harsh and cruel and rule without mercy (for a short time).
 
And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way.
 
The one that has restrained is, The Holy Spirit of God's Trinity in order to keep satan in check until the phrophets have been proven (what they have said comes to pass).
Some scholars believe that the Holy Spirit will accompany the "Christians in the Rapture". Thus leaving all those who remain to suffer under almost unlimited evil for three and a half yrs.
 
And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming.
 
Ofcourse this speaks of the "Battle of Armegedan" where Christ will defeat the anti-christ and lock him away for one thousand yrs. while Jesus rules here on earth.
 
The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, 10 and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
 
The "Truth" being "The Gospel" and Christ because Christ instructs us that He is "The way The truth and The life". Without whom NO one will be saved.
 
Here is the part that brought me here. These last verses help us understand what's going on and why.
 
11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 12 in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 
I want to keep this short so I'm avoiding to many references. Many are offended when they see where God does something that is perceived as negitive. We have to remember that He knows our every thought and motive and when He knows that there are multitudes that will never accept Him or His gifts. He will give them more than they can handle of whatever they have put in His place. In this country so many want a free ride and gay rights and freedom to kill babies so this country may well get a belly full. But don't despair because He has promised to take care of those who keep their faith and attention on Him and his Son. So we may see our beloved Nation fall to the dirtbags, but as long as we keep Christ and His instruction as our focal point in life and deed we will only be witnessess of the distruction.
 
I will likely still chime in as I have before when our rights and way of life is threatened. Because I intend to fight the losses, but I will not lose hope and I hope none of you will either.
 
God of heaven and earth, Thank You for showing us those things that must happen before our Savior returns. And Thank You for giving us strength and understanding to live in these troubled days. Father will you help us keep control of our emotions and actions as we witness the tribulation at hand. In Jesus the Christ Name we pray A
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I still contend that Obama is not a true "Marxist". Marx and Engels were actually socialists. Obama has gone them one better and blended the communist political system with the socialist economic system. That is why he is such a presence to be feared.   I believe he has a true understanding of the communist/socialist hegemony. Perhaps Marx had an immature understanding of that conjoined ruling perversion, but I do not believe he was fully comfortable with the communist concepts. The communist manifesto was a sales job for socialist society. It is complex and requires much more than I would want to put into a post, but Obama is the culmination of the communist/socialist vision. I think Marx saw communism as the end and socialism as the means. Engels was a true socialist. Marx actually even had some understanding of the capitalist system, just did not like the fact that a worker's labor could be traded as a commodity, one of the precepts of capitalism. Far too heavy for this time of day...

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Dan,
It may be late, but I think your post is spot on.  It shows you understand Obama perfectly. 
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The only thing that pisses me off about the rumors and nasty garbage that I have read about Obama is the fact that some of them are not true!  I wish to God they were true and that that jerk-off would get run out of town on a rail.....
 
It was reported in snopes that the quotes of Obama talking about the National Anthem being " bellicose" and warlike; and that Obama would rather hear a jingle like " I'd like to teach the world to sing " was really a sarcastic comment made by a radio talk show person in 2007.  I have, however, heard Obama say that he thinks the flag " offends " some nations of the world.  Blah....blah....
 
The Federal Judge in Philadelphia has dismissed Philip Berg's lawsuit against Obama ( in an attempt to get him to produce a birth certificate ) by claiming that Berg's [ legal ] reasons were not warranted ( you'll have to read it....) Among other things, he used the word "Unreasonable"    blah....blah...
 
Obama is a Muslim who attended(s) a Black Liberation Theology church cult, so we know the guy is a racist whack-job. I can't stand him A-TALL!!
 
The very BEST we could expect from an Obama-Nation would be A Black Racist Arrogant Jerk with the most liberal set of values on earth about ready to stuff the Supreme Court full of the same!!  
 
The very worst we could expect is probably too incredible for any normal American to even come up with...............BAD!!!   REAL BAD!!
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I still contend that Obama is not a true "Marxist". Marx and Engels were actually socialists. Obama has gone them one better and blended the communist political system with the socialist economic system. That is why he is such a presence to be feared.   I believe he has a true understanding of the communist/socialist hegemony. Perhaps Marx had an immature understanding of that conjoined ruling perversion, but I do not believe he was fully comfortable with the communist concepts. The communist manifesto was a sales job for socialist society. It is complex and requires much more than I would want to put into a post, but Obama is the culmination of the communist/socialist vision. I think Marx saw communism as the end and socialism as the means. Engels was a true socialist. Marx actually even had some understanding of the capitalist system, just did not like the fact that a worker's labor could be traded as a commodity, one of the precepts of capitalism. Far too heavy for this time of day...

 
 
 
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Dan,
It may be late, but I think your post is spot on.  It shows you understand Obama perfectly.
 
 
 
Come on you guy's!     "Marxist", Marx and Engels you're giving the guy way too much credit for brains. He has carisma and is fair at readin a script. When ever he opens his mouth without a script he has to do damage control. He's a classic liberal Dem puppet. I'm confident that the Dem majority wish they had stayed with clinton. Then when Palin stepped up there would have been little to talk about. If McCain wasn't so easy to connect to Bush, obama would be crying the blues. There is a slim chance McCain could get the majority but there's so much vote riggin goin on we may be half way into the next term before we know who won.
I had guard duty last Saturday at the armory for early voting and registration. From what I saw it's just another oppertunity for mistakes, miscounts and cheating. Plus I saw obama supporters bringing in drunks, gangbangers and everything else they could dig up to make an "X" on the ticket. I didn't see anyone prevented from voting reguardless of proof of identity or proof of address. The Dems play dirty and don't try to hide it.
"The clinton play book"
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In other words, if McCain takes the high road, and uses the $40 in public funds to run his campaign, he not only loses, but no one gives a sh*t.    [ I get it!!......] Thinking
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I see it this way, we shouldn't have to worry so much about the ups and downs of the people's choices over the long term as long as we always continue to have the right to vote. Socialistic approaches will wreak havoc and society will again vote more capitalistic. The key is that the choice always remain with the people.
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Well, I don't get THAT. 
 
If the dang masses vote to have a bloody police state, am I to rejoice because the people chose that government???  So all is right with the world.  I don't want America turned into SOMEPLACE ELSE because a bunch of jackasses don't give a sh*t about the Constitution that we have already had for over two hundred years, and vote in some jerk-off who is the darling of every whacko group in the country!  Louis Farrakan, Jeremiah Wright, all the Left Wing Whackos in Hollywood, Oprah, etc. etc.
 
I do not have FAITH in the VOTERS of this country.....the existence of the Liberals in this Country are living proof of the AGENDA of HALF the VOTERS.
 
George Washington and Jefferson and Madison are probably whirling in their graves.


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Yeah I can see where that took so many others. Cuba, China, Germany found itself the cause of WW1, and WWII because of this. Mike like it or not you are dead wrong and the more you try to get the last word the worse you start to look.
Yeah as long as you have the right to vote, You better look at history sir.
Now look at the fact that in all actuality, we don't have the right to vote for President, that is the electoral college's responsibility. Just how much of a stretch is it for someone corrupt to fix this? Look at all that can be done to thwart what the people want. Look at all  that is being done against the Constitution as it is. Your RIGHT to vote is a rapidly diminishing thing, and given the fact that the DNC couldn't care less about you, me, freedom or this Country. Everyone else sees it, you want to go through life with rose colored glasses, be my guest. Just know, that I and most others here do not share your views.  
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The people don't currently realize the effects of the choice they are making, but they will realize it later, and then they can vote to fix their mistake and get things back on course.

Nothing can stop the combined ultimate powers of freedom of speech and the right to vote from forcing the function of government to reflect the will of the people. I could not conceive of a better method to determine the function of government.

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...........well you see THAT is what I OBJECT TO.............the "will" of OBAMA and the jerks who would elect him! 
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Originally posted by opticsmike opticsmike wrote:

The people don't currently realize the effects of the choice they are making, but they will realize it later, and then they can vote to fix their mistake and get things back on course.

Nothing can stop the combined ultimate powers of freedom of speech and the right to vote from forcing the function of government to reflect the will of the people. I could not conceive of a better method to determine the function of government.



We might not get a chance to fix it.  Look at Obama already, anyone that speaks out against him he goes after them to shut them up.  His whole campaign has been that way.  What do you think will happen when he is president, it is only going to get worse.  The media controls most of the voters by lies.  The rest of us are controlled by the cheating at the poll booths. 

The movie V for Vendetta, ya I see that happening.
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