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so what is the popular opinion on illuminated reticles?im in the market for a new scope , prolly gonna be the vx-3l 4.5x14x56 with boone and crockett reticles. but i dont konow if the ill. reticle is worth the exra hundred bucks. ive never had a illum. ret. but if it really is that much better then ill go for it.
 
so what do yall think? are there any cons to an illum. ret?
 
thanks guys!
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Pros --
*  Lit reticles are far superior to conventional reticles in very low light, provided it's a well designed lit reticle that doesn't over-illuminate and flare out the view of the target.
*  A lit reticle allows you to use a finer reticle without losing reticle visibility in low light, providing the best of both worlds -- excellent reticle acquisition in low light and low target subtension for greater long range precision.  It takes a very thick conventional reticle to even remotely approach the low light visibility you get with a lit reticle.
*  Better contrast against dark backgrounds / targets makes for faster target acquisition. 
Cons --
*  More expensive.
*  Except for the Trijicon scopes and Bushnell Firefly, all other lit reticles require batteries.  When the batteries go dead, it doesn't render your scope useless, as you still have a conventional reticle with illumination turned off, but you lose the advantage of illumination.  So, it's a good idea to carry a spare battery.
*  Lit reticles may be illegal to use in some states / locations.
*  A poorly designed lit reticle will actually be a disadvantage in poor light.  If the reticle is too bright, it produces flare inside the scope and causes your iris to contract, hindering your ability to see your target.  A well designed lit reticle has a broad intensity range and will allow adjustment to only enough brightness to just be visible in the light conditions.  It is also better if only the center of the reticle is illuminated rather than the whole reticle.  You only need to be able to see the actual aiming point and no more.

Basically, if you never hunt in low light or at night (predators, feral hogs), it may not be worth the extra $.  Personally, I love lit reticles, have several lit reticle scopes, and use them frequently.




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Make sure they're legal for hunting in your state/locale (as RifleDude mentioned). Be a shame to get a scope you really like but can't use. Note that some state's regs can be confusing or vague. I had to call MT FWP to confirm that they're legal here.
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just 2 pts to add to rifledude's excellent summary-- illum. reticles can be used during the day also if the actual target is hid in the shadows, which makes the contrast ratio from the outside area really high-- windows.
biggest pt, if you are already getting an expensive or fairly expensive scope not getting the illumination feature with it is poor economics.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Pros --
*  Lit reticles are far superior to conventional reticles in very low light, provided it's a well designed lit reticle that doesn't over-illuminate and flare out the view of the target.
*  A lit reticle allows you to use a finer reticle without losing reticle visibility in low light, providing the best of both worlds -- excellent reticle acquisition in low light and low target subtension for greater long range precision.  It takes a very thick conventional reticle to even remotely approach the low light visibility you get with a lit reticle.
*  Better contrast against dark backgrounds / targets makes for faster target acquisition. 
Cons --
*  More expensive.
*  Except for the Trijicon scopes and Bushnell Firefly, all other lit reticles require batteries.  When the batteries go dead, it doesn't render your scope useless, as you still have a conventional reticle with illumination turned off, but you lose the advantage of illumination.  So, it's a good idea to carry a spare battery.
*  Lit reticles may be illegal to use in some states / locations.
*  A poorly designed lit reticle will actually be a disadvantage in poor light.  If the reticle is too bright, it produces flare inside the scope and causes your iris to contract, hindering your ability to see your target.  A well designed lit reticle has a broad intensity range and will allow adjustment to only enough brightness to just be visible in the light conditions.  It is also better if only the center of the reticle is illuminated rather than the whole reticle.  You only need to be able to see the actual aiming point and no more.

Basically, if you never hunt in low light or at night (predators, feral hogs), it may not be worth the extra $.  Personally, I love lit reticles, have several lit reticle scopes, and use them frequently.


 
Excellent reply!!! One of the best is a Bushnell 4200 Elite 2.5-10x50 if you don't mind a bold German #4 reticle
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If you can find a shop with one (that has batteries in it), ask them if you can see it in a dark room.  This will give you an idea of how bright the reticle is when lit.
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As my hunting interests tend more to hogs, lit reticles are a "must", those little bastards love the dark and tend to blend really well into shadows (Natural Selection, or something.)


As Ted said, if you invest in an illuminated scope, make sure the illumination doesn't suck, bad illumination is far worse than no illumination.

And, like FFP, if you don't know if you need illumination, you probably don't need illumination.
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thanks for the info guys!
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