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I cant decide which to get. Some reasons as to why or why not please Whacko
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In low light, you lose the cross hairs.  With an illuminated reticule, you get them back. 
Good glass works in almost pitch blackness, the cross hairs are gone in that, but illumination allows you to take better advantage of the scope as an aiming device rather than simply a looking device.
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 Unless you are doing stuff like preditor or crop damage control, then the ill is just a toy that takes batteries and is one more thing to go wrong. How much hunting do you do at night?  A number four retical serves most people. Put the money into better glass.
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After reading about USO scopes here and at other boards I have decided to get the following scope it will be mounted on a Alexandser Arms 6.5 GSR with a 28" barrel. I have but one more question though. Will this set up get out to 1000 yards with out a 20 MOA rail?

 
Scope:
  • SN3-1750
  • T-Pal Left - Standard Option
  • 44mm T-Pal - Standard Option
  • 35mm - 80.00
  • Matte Black - Std - Standard Option
  • EREK Metric - 175.00
  • US#3 Metric - 45.00
  • Mil-Scale MPR - 86.00
  • 11 Pos Rheostat (Red) - 185.00
  • Standard Housing - Standard Option
  • Rapid Focus - Standard Option

    Accessories:

  • 44mm Fixed 4" Sunshade - 45.00
  • Polarizer/ARD - 40.00
  • Rheostat Cover - 10.00
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    It will, and beyond.  The nice thing about the EREK is that it can go from a 200 yard zero to a 1,000 shot in one rotation (depending on ballistics.)

    Your scope is a great setup.  I have mostly the same setup and can't say enough good about it (mine has GAP reticule, all else is same.)\

    While you are getting this, also get a rail-mounted level (which helps immensely at long range)  , with or without elbow.  And if you get that, get the new cap-saver, so you don't lose the cap to your level quite so easily.

    They are worth the money, they are worth the wait.
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    http://www.alexanderarms.com/grendel.htm "Still supersonic at 1200 yards, the 6.5 Grendel® delivered superior external ballistics to the 7.62 NATO. ....  BLA Bla bla....

    Shooting a 123-grain Lapua Scenar with a ballistic coefficient of .547 and a muzzle velocity of 2600 fps delivers outstanding accuracy out to 1200 yards. At 600 yards, tennis ball size targets are no match for this flat shooting round. For extreme accuracy, formidable terminal ballistics and long range applications, the 6.5 Grendel® from Alexander Arms is unbeatable."

     Sounds great - where you going to get ammo for it in the middle of nowhere?
     
    As for the plus 20 moa rail I would probably use one if most of my shooting was at distance to take advantage of the optical center of the scope.
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    No doubt something in the 6.5 range would be a improvement over .223 and .308 but it really leaves me thinking one should call GAPrecision http://www.gaprecision.com/ and see if George would want to build an AR-10 in .260 Remmington. http://www.dpmsinc.com/store/?cat=2      That you might stand a chance of finding ammo for at a well stocked gun store at least and George does stock some USO.  You might eaven get larson tactical to do a cool paint job while its in Kansas City. http://www.larsontactical.com/id17.html


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    I have thought about getting an AR 10 in .260 but I plan on using the lower for other calibers also. IE 50 Beowulf, .223, .204 are some of the options. I will stay with the USO for the 6.5, as I will be getting different uppers i will get different optics as I go along to include IOR, Leupold etc as each has different applications. Thanks for all the input on this subject.
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