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Hello Everyone,

I am new here but I am seeing a ton of good questions and feedback. I am hoping someone can help me.

I am in the market for a solid rifle scope with an illuminate reticle or illuminated dot in the center. The brand of the scope doesn't matter too much to me.
Price range is about $300-$400.

Thank you.
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Why need illuminated reticle?

What is it going on?
For what will the rifle/optic be used?
Do you need magnification?
At what ranges will you be shooting?

That will start the conversation.  Without that info, I am only comfortable recommending Hensoldt ($3000) or Aimpoint ($500), or maybe a flashlight and iron sites.
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With few exceptions, the decent illuminated scopes I'm aware of start in the $450 - $600 range.  Good illuminated reticle scopes don't come cheap. 
 
Here are a couple decent lit scopes in the Burris Fullfield line that fit in your price range...
 
Here are a couple others with slightly better optics for a little more money...
 
I haven't seen any lit scopes for lower prices than these that were any good.  Illumination is an expensive option.  Illumination is nice to have for low light hunting, but if you don't absolutely have to have illumination, you can get a much better scope within your budget without it.
 
 
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going on a blackpowder gun. Savage 10ML.
shots really are not more than 100 yds. Deer hunting only.

I had a lot of opportunity this year in twilight conditions and could have used illumation. That's why I am looking into this.
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Thanks a bunch. I'll check out those Burris and Bushnell you have listed there.
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The Burris Sig Select 1.5-6X40 Electro Dot scope would be ideal for your application.  A buddy of mine has that scope and it's pretty nice, with well designed illumination.
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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

Here are a couple others with slightly better optics for a little more money...


I just bought one of these (used) from another member here.  While I haven't had a chance to use it in the field yet, I can attest that it appears to be a super nice quality scope.  The red illuminated dot is very small, but it should work perfectly for dark conditions.  (I got mine for late night hog hunting, btw.)
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Hey last night I bought an inexpensive little yugo sks and it came with what appears to be an older Butler Creek Truglo optic on it.
After flipping the lens covers open and looking through the thing I'm not seeing a dot or crosshair or anything. While I obviously am not too savy at all, I am assuming I should probably see a dot? There are 3 exterior adjustments but being rather ignorant (obviously) regarding this subject I thought this might be a good resource to solicit some information. I'm again "assuming" one of the exterior adjustments may be a power switch that would activate a dot or crosshair or something to that effect but being the genius that I am, I don't want to mess with anything before I solicit some info or advice from someone who may actually know a thing or two about it.
How about it guys, anybody wanna help the village idiot with some info on what appears to be a slightly older Butler Creek Truglo...!? 
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Put a new battery in it.
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Bushnell 1-4x24 Trophy 30mm Rifle Scope 4A w/ Illuminated Dot Bushnell 1-4x24 Trophy 30mm Rifle Scope
Stock # - 731424M
  • Matte
  • 4A w/ Illuminated Dot
  • 30mm
$129.95
This one is twenty bucks lower than it usually is better hurry they dont discount these things very long and there seems to be no pattern.
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that sig select does look pretty sweet.

The more I read the more I am starting to think I can get a much better quality scope if I forget about the illumination.

The Zeiss Conquest 3x9x40 is going for $399.00 now.

I guess I have to weigh the value of the illumination and make sure I don't sacrifice too much quality just to get an e-dot?

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Are you hunting after dark?  If not, you should do just fine with the Conquest.  Just last night I took my Lott with 4x Conquest, Elvira with SS10xHD, 7mmMag with Ellis Optics 4-16x56 (only one with illuminated reticle) and BAR 30-06 with Kahles ZF84 6x out and checked "tree line shot capabilities w/o illumination".  With all 4 I could pick out a pumpkin I have set up at 100 yards at the edge of trees... could have made a shot.  Stars were out(not for long, clouds moved back in pretty quickly), moon was very low on the horizon.  Clearest views were 1) Kahles, 2) Conquest/SS10xHD, 3) Ellis Optics.  However, the EO was set at 16x.  I did dial down to 4x, and acquisition was better, but I did not do a side by side comparison at that point.  Glass definitely trumps illumination for the most part.  Downside is that it absolutely takes longer to find the center point of the reticle and a target, get a good sight picture and be able to take a shot without illuminated reticle... qualified by the IF the IR is not so bright it completely overpowers the ability to see a target.  Some IR's are just TOO BRIGHT, no matter what you do.  The scopes that have really good low power illumination are more than moderately expensive.  
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I've recently seen the Bushy 4200 firefly scopes on sale at a couple
different places around $300.
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