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Anybody had any experience with these?

Please enlighten me


I am thinking they are JUNK, unless anybody can change my mind? 

Working a trade for a Rem 700 with one of their scopes on it, no details on which one, yet.

Overall impressions please
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Holy crap, even their website is hard on the eyes! That's as far as I got and could get...probably pure crap. Get the rifle, but don't pay anything for the scope.
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I have looked at them once a while ago.

They are junk and the guy peddling them is a liar and conman.

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Originally posted by jonoMT jonoMT wrote:

Holy crap, even their website is hard on the eyes! That's as far as I got and could get...probably pure crap. Get the rifle, but don't pay anything for the scope.

Kind of my take. 

Rifle is a 700 Rem CDL, straight stock in 300 Wheatherby Mag. A freakin cannon, WAY too hot for this area. Great Rocky Mtn Elk gun.
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Junk, huh? Ain't that the way it goes. Just when I finally find an outfit that sells rifle scopes and Hungarian music on the same site.
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Originally posted by Shenko Shenko wrote:

Junk, huh? Ain't that the way it goes. Just when I finally find an outfit that sells rifle scopes and Hungarian music on the same site.

Polkas??????  Now THAT would be a deal...
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From the site:

"30MM TUBE FOR GREAT LIGHT PICK UP AND VIEWING"


"OPEN TURRENTS FOR EASY ADJUSTMENT OF YOUR WINDAGE AND ELEVATION ALSO COMES 

WITH GLASS POP UPS"


And I really like how they list the scope "features" on the objective bell - and in bright white lettering.



Very tacticool.


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Overall impression: pure garbage.
You'd be better off taking an old paper towel roll, painting it black, and taping it to your gun.
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Overall impression: pure garbage.
You'd be better off taking an old paper towel roll, painting it black, and taping it to your gun.

The really sad thing is that some people will actually pay good money for these things...  where's the Food and Drug Administration when you need them?? 
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RC, I commend you for actually sticking around long enough to read that crap. I couldn't hit CTRL-W on my keyboard fast enough. You've got to protect your eyesight.
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Overall impression: pure garbage.
You'd be better off taking an old paper towel roll, painting it black, and taping it to your gun.


If you need a more compact version, use a TP tube instead!
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Originally posted by bugsNbows bugsNbows wrote:

Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

Overall impression: pure garbage.
You'd be better off taking an old paper towel roll, painting it black, and taping it to your gun.


If you need a more compact version, use a TP tube instead!

A short section of black foam tubing used to insulate water lines would work well. Just think- durability and zero eye- relief issues.

Oh Wait!  A real PLUS! Their "R14 MILITARY MILL DOT" lets you determine if the target is at 25 yds. or even 50 yds.!!

Not only that, but their sekrit best model sells for only $372, which should really give those Hensoldt boys a run, or the runs.


Edited by Alan Robertson - June/11/2011 at 13:03
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I have no axe to grind, but have a opinion of the IJK rifle scopes.  I looked at them several times and finally decided to try one.   I purchased a 4-16X50AO R-5 reticle (1" Tube).  The scope did not seem to hold zero very well on my CZ453 Varmint .17HMR.  I took it back and the dealer gave me another to try (with no hazzles).  The first thing I did was shoot a (3) shot group at 25 Yards...move 64 clicks left and fired two shots touching...moved 64 clicks down and fired two shots touching...moved 64 clicks right and fired two shots almost touching...and then 64 clicks up back to the orginial group...and fired two shots that went back into the same original three shot group (3/8").  The completed exercise looked like a 2" square.  The scope has continued to perform well at 100 yards.  I've had several three shot groups around 1/2" at 100 yards with one group about 1/4".  I've been impressed with the clarity of the scope with the 50mm obj lens, and the AO distances seem to be right on to a 100 yards.  I have not gone any further yet.  Over-all I have been really surprised how good this second scope has been...for its price.  Please keep in mind this scope is on a low recoil rifle. 
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Other than 28gauge, all you got in response was a list of knuckleheads with opinions - pretty standard for the internet.

This thread may be old but I stumbled upon it, so if anyone else does, here's my .02 with regard to IJK optics:

I met the family that owns IJK Optics at the Crossroads of the West gunshow in Del Mar.  They have a comprehensive line of optics.  I asked the daughter for a general rundown on the holographic sights, and what she told me was interesting: she said that the holographic sights they sold were accurate and would hold, but she also told me that they were difficult to use outdoors in the middle of the day because the sun would diffuse the MoA, and that if I was looking for something to use during the day I should look into an L3 product. 

Considering the fact that she has a vested interest in seeing her families business achieve profits, her disclosure of the shortcomings of her product before I could even ask says a lot.  They seem like pretty solid people, and they guarantee a replacement if you have a problem.  I bought an illuminated scope from them with a fairly good zoom ability for a LR-308 I'm building.  It should be done in a few months, so at that point I'll post a better review of the product after putting a few hundred rounds through it. 

Until then, here's the advice: don't buy their holographic sights if you shoot outdoors, and if you're considering a product of theirs, ask them.  They'll give you an honest assessment.
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Ya, we are just a bunch of "internet knuckleheads"....hahahaha.

Welcome to Optics Talk...home of the knucklehead special.
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And to add, what in the wild, wild, world of sports would I want a red dot site, that I can't use outdoors??!
I guess they made them for elite "entry teams"?
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Hah.. Well, I'm not part of an elite entry team, but living in an urban area definitely diminishes my opportunities for shooting outdoors.  Even then, I don't know if I'd buy it... I prefer scopes anyway, and I'll do a review on the IJK I bought after I give it a beating.

Anyway, the point is.. if you're a recreational shooter who does the majority of shooting in an indoor range, and you really want a holographic sight, you may be able to save a few hundred bucks and get a sight that is otherwise an equivalent.  The best part about IJK (and really the only information I've gotten from any online reviews) is that if your purchase sucks, they'll replace it with a new one.  If after that it still sucks, write a review about it and tell everyone "E. Engineer" doesn't know what the hell he's talking about! 
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Well Sir, respectfully, I wont be buying one.
I really don't think I need to at this juncture.
I have an Aimpoint T1 and it works indoors and outdoors, with equal effectiveness.

I guess you could say if your not willing to try one, then don't say they are junk, but I've never had the clap either, and Im quite certain I don't want any of it just to render an informed opinion.
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Now I'm confused...

First, I don't care what you buy...  I'm only posting information I know about a certain scope that someone asked about.  Just because my experience up to this point has been good doesn't mean I need you buy buy anything.

Second, I never said "if your not willing to try one, then don't say they are junk."  That's not what I'm trying to say.. I just call people knuckleheads when they talk about things they don't know about.  Hell, one guy says the owner of IJK is a criminal.  Ok..?  How?  Hell, if I wrote a post saying the owner likes to hump doorknobs it would be just as helpful.

You are right about one thing, though - you don't have to have the clap to know it sucks.  But that's because it's common knowledge.  However, whether or not IJK optics is a quality manufacturer of sights is NOT common knowledge - go ahead and google it, or if you're as lazy as I am, just re-read this thread.
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Sir, your free to post your likes or dislikes of optics here as you see fit, but you did so and called well respected people here "knuckle heads". 

These people are my friends, but more importantly they know a great deal more about optics than the average internet shooter dude. As far as I know, you may be a spook that works for the company in question. 

Lastly, if Mr. Koshkin say's someone is peddling junk and is a liar, then that's good enough for me. I won't spend one dime to further their endeavor or help them succeed. 

And that's all I have to say on this matter. Good shooting and I'm glad you found the scope to your liking. 
   
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I'm sorry, Koshkin--were you indicating that you did or did not favor them? Please feel free to express yourself!
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 Albeit,'discretion being the better part',,,and bearing in mind; it's just the internet,,,this is what I know about IJK.
And yes, I am an an 'optics grasshopper',(that's why I'm here), that means I'll defer to those w' far more expierience in glassology.
I've had several occasions to use the 1.5-6x42 w/ illumination. 
The good points : clear image & reticle, good defininition, color & contrast. It adjusted easily, definite, accurate clicks. 
 
Some things I think could be improved:
The adjustable ucular ring does not lock. The illumination bleeds like a stuck pig, exit pupil is not generous.
 
I think it bears a strong resemblence to the Kalinka VPOI(pretty much a dead ringer), Hawke Eclipse, and Barska Swat. Exterally they all seem to have the same ocular box/eyepiece. They all are offered at the approxomate same price point; about $200. Probably a standard platform offered by some nameless Chine' supplier.
To me, the question would be, 'how good is a $200 Chine' 'scope?"
 
I have no expierience w/ the importer.
 
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Originally posted by bro.steve bro.steve wrote:

I'm sorry, Koshkin--were you indicating that you did or did not favor them? Please feel free to express yourself!

Here is the original thread (one of them on Eagle Eye optics):


My opinion on them has not changed since then.

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This from an IJK thread dating back to 2007  :
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I e-mailed Steve at ijksales, regarding a sample scope for review.

I'll let you know if he replies.

ILya"
 
So Mr. Koshkin,,,did IJK ever respond ? Somehow I doubt it.  Jes' curious...
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