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I JUST BOUGHT A REMINGTION MODEL 700 XCR LONG RANG TACTICAL RIFLE IN 300 WIN MAG. I WOULD LIKE SOME SUGESTIONS FOR A SCOPE. I HAVE BEEN READING UP ON A SS BUT I WANTED TO ASK SOMEONE WITH MORE KNOWLEDGE THAN I HAVE.

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What kind(s) of shooting - target, hunting (0-300, 300+, both)? Since you mentioned the SS, have you seen the new 3-9 variable?
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I bought the gun for hunting, but i would like to get into target shooting also. I had the choise to buy a 308 or 300, since i would be hunting with it i got the 300. It's my first tactical rifle. Is the SS a good scope for a beginner? I have allways heard that if you don't spend at least a $1000.00 on a scope it's no good.

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  Hey Sam,WELCOME to OT!!!
 
  The SS Variable is a new scope (paints still wet!) so keep posted for updates. But so far  Thunbs Up !!
 
  If anything less than $1000 scope is no count than my sub $1000 scopes and me are in a world of hurt!  Mixing hunting and target shooting into one scope could have a few drawbacks,reticle selection being one,but I'll let those with more experience with this help you out.  
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Sam,

There are many great scopes to be had at less than $1,000, and there are some exceptional scopes to be had for more than $1,000; plan to get what you pay for.

What will you be hunting?  I own 300WM and .308 and can honestly say the rifle you bought will do far more than a .308, but it'll generate a little more recoil in the process.  I like 300s, I own a few, great round, and you can't over-kill something - but you can damage it beyond repair, and a 300 can do some serious damage to North American-sized game.

As for a scope, at what ranges would you like to punch paper?

The new 3-9 would be a great first scope and would be a good paper puncher as well as hunting setup.  The real question is: does the 3-9SS have what you want and what you need?  For me, 9X is a little light for a 600 yard precision shot, but anything inside that range is fine by a 9x.  Too much magnification can be a bad thing too.

If your intention is to hunt and shoot 300 or maybe out to 500 at the range, the 3-9SS would be hard to beat in the price range.


Be a little more specific about what you wish to hunt, at what ranges, and what you want and need in a scope.  If you don't know what you need, we can help with tat, but be specific about what you want.
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For my tired old eyes that's really a two scope job. 3-9x for hunting, and 4-16x for target shooting. It's not light but I think I'd be looking at a Bushnell 6500 in 2.5-16x42. It's a little heavier than I like to lug around, and I have not laid eyes on one yet. But if it's as good as the 4200 should have the flexibility to do both jobs. 

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I agree with RC and the Ol' wizard!!!  Both scopes will serve you well.  I own a 2.5-16X42  6500 and although I do not own a 3-9 SS I did own an outstanding 10X SS.  I would say it's up to two things. What you can afford and What you want the upper end of magnification to be. 
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Thank you all for replying, I live in north louisiana and i hunt whitetail and alot of hogs. I don't think i would be comfortable shooting at a animal over 500 yard untill i was very comfortable with this new gun, and i am just getting into target shooting so the 3x9 SS sounds great. I have a brunton echo 6-24x50 scope but i don't know anything about it and i hate to waste  my time putting it on my gun if it's junk. Mr RC can you recommend a type of bullet and what grain to start with since you shoot a 300?
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http://www.black-hills.com/factoryNewR.htm


I have always had great fortune with the 190-gr Black Hills and this is what I shoot when not shooting handloads.  With my 300WMs, I've had one hog not drop on the spot - and the one that ran was about 350-pounds, had a double-lung, shot and he only got about 100 yards before hitting the ground and half-burying himself under the dead-fall.

Some will argue that a hunting load is better than a match load, and I'd agree somewhat with that.  When it comes to hogs, location of the hit outshines bullet weight or velocity every time.  I recommend about an inch behind the ear, and they drop like a sack o' dirt, no kicking, no fuss - and when they go down nice and quiet and still, others will come right back and step over the carcass to get to the food on the other side.

In my opinion, a 300WM is about the perfect hog gun: good power, good reach, easy to find ammo for it.


Enjoy.
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Sounds great can't wait to shoot this gun. Thanks RC.  Can anyone tell me about this scope i have? It's a Brunton Echo 6-24x50 scope. Is it a good scope,and will it hold up to a 300wm?
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Real nice rifle Sam!!

If weight is a concern for hunting, remember that your rifle alone without scope, rings, sling and ammo is around 8.5lbs.

For an LR rifle it's sweet!! Thunbs Up

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Thanks Mr Mike i think it's awsome. It took me a year to save for it. Yes it's heavy but we hunt mainly pine plantions and we hunt alot from box stands so it should be okay.

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A quick search of Brunton shows that they are very inexpensive.  In general, with scopes, you get what you pay for.  A $75 scope that can do what you need (accurately and reliably track, change power without changing POI) seems very unlikely - and it holding up to 300WM recoil, even more so.


Shoot it, see what you think, just be ready for it to die at the worst possible time: Murphy's Law.

My advise: scrap the Brunton (or sell it on ebay) and put a quality optic on the rifle.  Good glass trumps magnification, and the glass in the 3-9SS will amaze you compared to the 6-24.
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Thanks Mr RC for the advice. Glad i didn't wast my time with the Brunton. When i get my gun rigded up i'll post a pick. Any sugestions on a reticle?
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  Hey sam,
  Glad to hear you scrapped the Brunton Idea.  Do you have any idea what your price limit would be on a scope and have you decided to go with one scope for both hunting and target?
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I really think i will go with just one scope, just because of the money factor. I really like what i've read about SS scopes. I haven't decided on which on but i like the 3x9. What reticle would be good for hunting and target?
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    I'd say that picking a reticle to serve both hunting and target(shooting for the smallest of groups) is going to be a bit of a compromise.  If it's too thick it will cover your target if it's small.  If it's too thin you may lose it in low light hunting situations.  I'm talking extremely thick or extremely thin.  If the reticle crosshairs on the SS variable are the size the pic shows,and they rarely if ever are,I'd say it would work except maybe in VERY LOW LIGHT situations.
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Sam, if you are planning to buy a SS, the reticle choice is mil dot or - mil dot.

The 3-9 is an FFP mil dot, meaning the reticle gets larger as the magnification increases, this is not a bad thing in this 3-9.  Some FFP scopes with broad zoom ranges have issues with the reticle being too small on the low end and/or too large on the high magnification end.  This scope strikes a nice balance, not too small to be unusable on the low end (so the reticle won't disappear as light fades and a nice buck walks out) and will not be too large on the high end (so a significant portion of your target will not be covered by the reticle.)

As I've said previously, the 3-9 is a great scope and fits well with what you want your rifle to accomplish.

And, as said previously: unless you plan on shooting out past 500 yards or so at small targets, the 3-9 will work just great - and 3X is good for those close-in shots.
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   One thing I feel I should point out since your rifle's chambered in .300 Winchester Magnum is the SS 3-9x42mm's eye relief.  Specs show eye relief to be 105mm (4.13") at 3X and 77mm (3.03") at 9X. Something you may want to consider.
 
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Is that bad on the eye relief? I'm not sure what all that means. Another question is what's the difference in a one piece scope mount and a two, and what works better on a model 700?
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3 inches is kind of short.  I personally would not want one with less that 3.5 on a 300.  I hit myself in the head last elk season with my 45-70 with a scope with 3.5"  left a nice little cut above my eye.
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Wow, I'd never seen the stats on the eye relief (mine is on a 12-pound 308, so no worries.)

That would give some pause.  How heavy is the rifle, does it have a brake?
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At this point we are getting really close to the release date on the new Super Sniper 10x HD - high definition glass / Heavy Duty.    The 3-9x42 was designed for a flat top M-16  DM-R and eye relief would not be an issue for it there.  Mine is on a .308 R5 Mil Spec and is ideal for that rifle.  On the 300 WM the new HD might be a good choice.  It will have the 1/10 mil clicks also.
 
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Do you know what the price will be on the 10x HD, and will it be more suited for a 300 WM?
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  I don't think you'd want a fixed 10X for a hunting scope as you'd really be hindering yourself at close range encounters with game.  Got any idea about how much your willing to spend on a scope?  There are ALOT of NICE variable scopes out there in the 2,2.5,3,3.5X to10X range and I believe that power range would serve you well.
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