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Ok, Woke up Monday, no lights, no heat, no power whatsoever. The First thing I did was start the Generator and plug in the coffee pot. In fact that coffee was my main reason for firing up the generator. As I stood there watching the Mr. Coffee do it's thing, thinking "my precious" the wife says hey "expletive", you gonna plug in the heaters and the TV? Well while standing in the carport connecting the heaters and tv to the gen I thought, dude, you are seriously addicted to coffee but since no one has ever gone to jail or rehab for coffee addiction I'm good... Right?
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It's next on the list junky.
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I bought a generator big enough to power the whole house after the ice storm of 2009, and being stranded at home for 4 days, and without power for 9.

Best thing I ever did. Haven't had another ice storm or major power outage since.

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Yep I'm good now for the next several years...
 
I bought a 7KW/10.5KW surge gen.  How big is your gen Lynn?
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Nice question Bud,asking another guy how big his genny is Whacko
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quiet you....we're measuring here...
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You guys gens might be big, but are they they auto start, push to start or pull to start? Mine is push to start with a pull to start back up.
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Cough, cough....
 
My back up generator is pull start 6KW.
My primary Gen is PB start 7KW /10.5KW surge
 
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My Primary also has a pullstart but why bother. 
I work for Dewalt Cordless Power tools and I've switched out the 12V motorcycle battery for a Dewalt 20V Lithium. Cranks FAST! vBucky
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Originally posted by budperm budperm wrote:

Yep I'm good now for the next several years...
 
I bought a 7KW/10.5KW surge gen.  How big is your gen Lynn?

Mine is 15KW with 17.5KW surge, and PB start, and it's a Generac.

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mines...... wait... I dont' have one.  Whatever
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Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

Originally posted by budperm budperm wrote:

Yep I'm good now for the next several years...
 
I bought a 7KW/10.5KW surge gen.  How big is your gen Lynn?

Mine is 15KW with 17.5KW surge, and PB start, and it's a Generac.

 
 
Lynn has delusions of grandeur.... 15KW will run a whole house with a 3 ton AC unit...
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BTW.. generac got ouot of the small gen business... sold it to... B&S
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I've been using a 5500 + generac for 10 years ,it does most of the hobbit Big Grin
 
Sorry to hear they sold out,they have made a great product for decades.
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OK since we're comparing sizes...........

Mine is a Yamaha 6600, surge 8000W electric start.  Won`t run the whole house but covers all the essentials and is pretty quiet and decent on fuel.

Lynn,  what would an auto-start with delay cost you for that beast
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Briggs is a good co,maybe they can get a little better with a little less competition.

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Originally posted by Dogger Dogger wrote:

OK since we're comparing sizes...........

Mine is a Yamaha 6600, surge 8000W electric start.  Won`t run the whole house but covers all the essentials and is pretty quiet and decent on fuel.

Lynn,  what would an auto-start with delay cost you for that beast

It's a portable.

We checked into an auto start that ran on LP gas, but it was expensive, and I had a bad experience with both the local LP gas suppliers.

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Do you use Propane Lynn  Cause if you do please check out Thrifty Propane on the internet.
They are internet based.  I've used them for 4 years now with zero problems.  I just filled my tank two weks ago, 700 gals @ 2.42 gal when locals were paying in the 4 dollar range per gallon.  last summer i filled up for $1.37gal.
 
I know Thrifty services parts of Kentucky... about 10 counties or so....
 
When you go from a portable gen to a permanent install prices about triple... ther ethere is the extra cost of transfer Sw.  An Auto transfer switch quite often costs more than the Genny... Loco
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I see those portable generacs on the back of all the Comcast service vans.  3KW ones...
Since Comcast supplies phone service they have top keep their system up during blackouts for 911 service.  All their repeaters have battery back-up but it doesn't last very long.  So you see them scrambling around chaining gennies to Telepoles to power their repeaters...
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Diesel would be a more practical fuel for me, since any bottled gas could be a problem getting delivered because of my drive.
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ANy of you guys seen these?  http://www.generlink.com/about_generlink.cfm

Northern tool used to sell them but they are not listed any more.  I called my power company about installing one, but the tech that called me back said he had never heard of them so he would not install it.  I asked him if he could look into it and he just said no.

Looks interesting though, sure cheaper than a big expensive transfer switch. 
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Originally posted by BeltFed BeltFed wrote:

Diesel would be a more practical fuel for me, since any bottled gas could be a problem getting delivered because of my drive.
 
 
How would that be any different Lynn?  A tanker truck is a tanker truck...
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I can haul the diesel in the amounts I would need from the gas station myself. Getting bottled gas would be a hassel.
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Originally posted by supertool73 supertool73 wrote:

ANy of you guys seen these?  http://www.generlink.com/about_generlink.cfm

Northern tool used to sell them but they are not listed any more.  I called my power company about installing one, but the tech that called me back said he had never heard of them so he would not install it.  I asked him if he could look into it and he just said no.

Looks interesting though, sure cheaper than a big expensive transfer switch. 
 
 
That's different... wonder is it's mechanical or solid state.  Probably one big ass 230VAC 200A Triac switch  to isolate the grid.  you still have to go to the brkr panel and flip brkrs to limit loading.
Wonder how much it cost?  It would require the geny be located adjacent to the Elec Meter.
 
Senior El Cheapo, me,  simply made a 10AWG extension cord that plugs into a 30A Electric Clothes Dryer receptacle.  All Gennies below 8KW have 20/30A 230VAC outputs.  These are perfect for back powering the house thru either the Electric Clothes Dryer or electric Range plug.
 
If you have gas appliances you can still install a 30A 230VAC Electric Dryer receptacle somewhere in house, basement or garage.  One of those receptacles is only about $8.  An L1400 series Genny twist lock plug cost mid $30.... if you can find them cause they are only used on generators...
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