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I came across a brand of rifle scopes called "Huskermaw Optics", which seem to be producing scopes designed for long range shooting (on some clips, I saw them shooting all the way to a little over 900 yds).
Does anyone know anything about their quality? The firm that produces them speaks obviously, highly of them and they do seem pretty radical, but it would be interesting to hear some neutral opinions about it.
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All I can say is I saw an example of one at a local outdoor show I attended in Jan, and I wasn't impressed at all with it's optics.  It was very Tasco-like to me.  I don't know if this was a good representative sample, but if so, it's way overpriced.
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I looked in to them a while ago, and for what they get for them, I think there are far better and more proven options out there. Are you looking to do some shooting like this, or just curious? It seems to me they get like $1200 for them. I think there are better options in this price range.
 
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Yeah, you might say I am interested. The long range optics has become more and more interesting. I am quite aware of the traditional options like, Leupold Mark, S&B, Zeiss, Nightforce etc. Watching the videos on YouTube, it seemed like it could something to consider.

However, if it's true that the optics are Tasco like, man that totaly turns me off.

Would appreciate more opinions about it. The one with the Tasco totaly ruined my dreams,Really Sad
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Isn't that the scope brand used on the TV show "The Best of the West"?
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It's really not so bad. You can still have your "Huskemaw" long range scope without the Huskemaw. Just buy a nice scope with enough internal adjustment, and target turrets, and have kenton industries make you a knob for it. It would be like having their scope, and dialing in range, but with a better base scope. You figure out your windage adjustments, and away you go. Or you use a ballistic reticle with some sort of built in wind compensating system, like the Zeiss Rapid-Z, and don't turn any knobs. All is not lost man.
 


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Yeah, that's the one!
They have some clips on YouTube with it. Hard to find though. A google search gave me nothing, a YouTube search gave me nothing. I finally found it after searching "Long Range Hunter Rifle System" and "Gunwerks Long Range Hunter" on the tube.
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Thanks for the tip!
Wouldn't  all that cost me so much more though? It was that knob that atracted my attention. It seemed so easy. But on the other hand, everything seems so easy on TV-shop....Whacko
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The site that I directed you to does not make those scopes. They make knobs like the ones the Huskemaw scopes use. This way you can use a nice scope, and put a Ballistic turret on it.
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Originally posted by trigger29 trigger29 wrote:

The site that I directed you to does not make those scopes. They make knobs like the ones the Huskemaw scopes use. This way you can use a nice scope, and put a Ballistic turret on it.


I did not know they existed. I had a look at the site and it's definitely worth the thought. I was wondering about the price of the knob. If I were to buy a Zeiss and then have to pay another $5-700 for installing a knob, then it might not be so cool.
I thought you maybe knew if it's worth it or not. I can obviously contact them directly otherwise.
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The knob will cost you $65-85. If you buy a Zeiss with target turrets, then you should be able to install it yourself. If you buy a Zeiss without target turrets, then Zeiss will install the target turrets for $60 apiece. Then you can install the Kenton knob yourself. I hope this helps. Be sure to check out the different formats that Kenton makes.
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Originally posted by trigger29 trigger29 wrote:

The knob will cost you $65-85. If you buy a Zeiss with target turrets, then you should be able to install it yourself. If you buy a Zeiss without target turrets, then Zeiss will install the target turrets for $60 apiece. Then you can install the Kenton knob yourself. I hope this helps. Be sure to check out the different formats that Kenton makes.


Oh, that sounds very interesting. It kind of puts things into a different perspective.
Thanks a lot for the tip!
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they are a scope that is intended for long range hunting. the pitch is they will make a turret specifically for your rifle and the numbers on the dial are in yardages, not MOA. the click value is 1/3MOA which most don't care for. most agree the price is too high. their fame came from the participants of "the best of the west" TV show.
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Originally posted by SamC SamC wrote:

Isn't that the scope brand used on the TV show "The Best of the West"?
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I've heard that this is the product of the guy that also owns the channel that all those commercials appear on.
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There's nothing really wrong with a click value of 1/3MOA...just that it should be on a MIL/MIL scope!

Maybe I like doing things the hard way but it seems more flexible (in terms of loads and different bullets) to just go with a mil-dot or similar reticle and regular target knobs. Use a rangefinder, ballistics software (and preferably a chronograph) to figure out your drop charts. Excuse me if I'm wrong, but I really don't see how anybody can reliably hunt long range w/out a rangefinder...regardless of whatever other aids are chosen.
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1st of all, WELCOME Tranan ! Forget about the Huskemaw - you can find whatever you need right here on riflescopes.com . Chris sells nothing but good stuff here. For $1200 you can get some good premium, and proven products off this site.
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Ok I normally don’t do this kinda thing but I to was interested in the Huskemaw scopes.  There are many blogs and opinions out there.  I always consider the source of the opinion and if it is based on facts or just feelings.  I am not associated with any scope company and any way.  I am just a hunter building a new custom rifle considering all my options.  I have read many opinions and some are based on bad information while others made good points.  Scopes are like rifles and everyone has there preference which is the best.  Who right and who is wrong?  


I did find out a few things First of all the huskemaw scope is made in Japan and not in China.  I talked to Huskemaw and asked them about the clarity of the glass and who made it and where the scope is made.  I was told that they get their glass from the same place Nightforce gets their glass which is also appears to be japan.  Ok so its not made in the good old USA, but then many scopes or there parts are not made in the states anyways.  Quality is quality no mater where it’s made or assembled.  As far as Japan goes most of the best optics in the world are made in japan look at all the high end camera lenses. 


I ordered a huskemaw scope with the knowledge that I could send it back if I didn’t like it.  I can say after physically inspecting the scope and bringing it into a store to compare it side by side to several scopes, I am impressed.  The weight and feel of the scope screams Nightforce to me.  I wonder if Huskemaw has the scope made by the same people that make some of the parts for nightforce scopes before they send parts to the US to be assembled.  Any ways I also held up a Swarovski and the huskemaw scope side by side and looked threw both several times.  The optics comparable if not the same.  I could not say which one was better.  So based upon my inspection I would say that this scope is in the same class as a high end Leupold, Swarovski and nightforce.  It doesn’t have the reputation of the big three but neither did they when they first started.  It’s a stout clear scope regardless.


The BDC turret clicks are strong a very positive, They did not feel sloppy.   Ok the 1/3 moa or and not the usual ¼ MOA……  This was done because it gives the BDC turret more range in one turn.  Multiple turns in the field with buck fever is not a good thing…lol.  There would be way to many numbers all over the turret.   One turn and the 1/3 MOA cleans up the numbers so that they minimize overlap and make it easier to read. If your hunting the simpler the better.  The reticle also combined with the windage hold over on the elevation turret eliminates the need to adjust another knob.  This eliminating the error that you adjusted the windage the wrong way or counted clicks wrong.  The initial set up takes a little work but saves you the need for a PDA, slide rule, the need to count on your finders or even guess in the field.  I would not recommend rushing measurements readings, calculations and adjustments in the field just to get the shot before you miss your shot window.  I don't want to think to much when i am hunting, I just want to shoot and have fun.  Super precision is not critical for a hunting rifle.  You just need to be able to hit a paper plate at the longer distances.  You are not match shooting where you are trying to shoot  a 2 ½ inch group or better at 1000 yards.  The scope was designed to be simple and fast to use in the field.  Range and dial to the distance, read the wind and hold over as needed.  Simple and fast is what you need in a hunting situation.  


Most of my experience has been with Leupolds and they have been great to me.  I am still waiting on parts to finnish my gun so I can dial in my huskemaw scope and new loads.  If you like the Huskemaw scopes system concept  But would like it in a Leupold look up "Greybull scopes" run by John Burns.....he split from Huskemaw but still uses the same system.  I think that they run about $100.00 more than the Huskemaw.  You could buy a nightforce with zero stop with a 2 MOA reticle for $1,800.00 and have a BDC turret made for another $100.00 but why pay $800.00 more for a similar scope unless you want that brand name.  I can't see what $800.00 more is getting me if anything it's minimal at best. 


If you are going to shoot competition or have lots of time to make a shot I am sure that there are better scopes out there for better suited for that use.  What are you going to use this scope for?  What is important to you?  From what I have personally seen and held in my hand not buy much.  For $1,050.00 I don't think you can go wrong with the Huskemaw.   I am going to stick with My new Huskemaw because I believe that it is build stronger than the Leupolds, glass is clear as a Swarovski, the body is built like a nightforce and from what I was told by huskemaw use the same glass.  Hold one in your hands and look threw it before you jump to any conclusions.  You can always find someone who will complain about having a lemon but that is with every scope.  last time I checked they all had a life time warranty. I would tend to believe the people who own them rather than someone who saw one or heard about them.  I am sure as there reputation grows so will there price.  As it is right now I think that they are the best value in a long range hunting scope.  If some one has something bad to say about them ask them first if they own one or used one before you buy into what they are selling.  Just my opinion but i am now glad that I ordered one so that I could do a side by side comparison. 

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Birdman, you are going to have to provide a lot more in the way of bona fides in order to get any kind of "belief factor".  I happen to know former "associates" of the Huskmaw organization who disagree with your assessment.  Outright, the word is that there are better "known quantity" scopes for a lot less money.  Doesn't mean your scope is not a pretty good one, just overpriced.  

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Like I said check it out for your self.  I am not trying to sell the scopes.  So I don't have to prove any thing as does any one here.  I am just saying that I am pleased with the scope so far and feel I got a good deal.  If you have a grand to put down on a scope order one and compare them side by side yourself at you local gun shop.  If you don't like it send it back.  I would also take it with a little grain of salt just because "former associates" could mean that they left on bad terms.  If thats the case there is a little bias and they would more than likely talk bad about their experience.  I have seen this happen in my neck of the woods when hunting buddies, money and greed start to mix bad things happen.....lol  I know the guys that made the robo duck.  I bet in the next few years several companies will be making the same types of retile and turret combos.  If there is money to be made greed takes over.  I do know that Burns has left and kinda joined with Leupold.  Not sure what happened and doesn't really mater. If you like Burns check out Grey bull its a Leupold that works like a Huskemaw.  Ok you tell me what is the word out there?  What is a better scope for less money?  Can you provide "bona fides" .... just because you can't prove something doesn't mean that it can't be proven nor that it can't be so.  It just means that you can't prove it.  It's always easier to be a critic than prove something.  A critic once said that "we could never put a man on the moon,"  I believe that we did or at least that is what I learned in school, but I wasn't personally was not there and I can't prove that it happen or the photos are real and not a stage etc....  To each there own, But I think that I got a deal on a great hunting scope and thought that I would share my experience with those that were interested.     
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Nikon Monarch was one mentioned of similar quality.  However, I don't own, nor have I had in hand a Huskemaw.  I do not make broad and sweeping assessments of an item's value based upon a sample of one, either.  Your comment about this scope being in the same class as a high end Leupold, Swarovski, or Nightforce leaves much to question as they are vastly different in different areas and, to some extent, designed for different purposes.  If you have direct comparisons you would like to make, I and most would very much like to see your evaluative process explained for our understanding.  Broad, unsubstantiated claims don't do much good for you or for any of us.  Side by side comparisons with pictures are always good.  
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