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As of yesterday, it became legal.

(Has always been legal on on-game animals such as hogs, now legal on game animals such as deer, squirrels, rabbits, javelina, etc,etc,etc.)

Act accordingly.
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That will boom the suppressor sales industry I think.  I'd love to be able to hunt with one here and not have to worry about hearing protection while hunting.
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Do you have to have a special weapons class permit or anything?
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Originally posted by RotoReuter_DM RotoReuter_DM wrote:

Do you have to have a special weapons class permit or anything?


To legally own/possess a suppressor, you must get approval (in the form of a tax stamp on an ownership document) from the BATFE.  There are 2  common ways to do it, each with advantages and disadvantages (there are other options, like building your own, which also require BATFE authorization):
1.  A personal form 4.  For this, you have to be fingerprinted, fill out the paperwork, submit 2 passport photos, get sign-off my the local sheriff or chief law enforcement official, and undergo an FBI background check.
2.  Purchase the suppressor under a corporation or trust. in which case the trust or corporation owns the suppressor rather than you personally.

One big, big point: proof of ownership HAS TO accompany the suppressor anywhere and everywhere.  An ATF agent can ask at any time to see your paperwork and if you don't have it, you get 10 all-expenses-paid years in the luxury of a federal prison.

SO long as you can pass the background check and have $200 to pay the ATF - as well as whatever the suppressor costs -  you can legally own and possess a suppressor in Texas.
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I'm glad, it was a long time coming... I've got quite a few things currently pending that I will have in time for the 2012 season opening!!!
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That expenses paid vacation is a killer deal!!!

Thanks for the information!

Looks to be the same set of rules in Wisconsin. It appears that you can hunt with it aswell... I'll have to look more into it. Amazes me how many local gunshop owners cant tell you any of the laws Whacko


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To expound upon Rancids comments and provide further clarification...

Appendix A, NFA, 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53, Section 479.71 Proof of registration; an ATF agent is the ONLY person whom you must provide "proof of legal ownership (copy of your form 1 or 4)" too...

Local law enforcement officials, sheriff/constables, game wardens and certainly over zealous Range Officers have absolutely no authority or business asking about your right to own or request to see your proof of ownership.

You'd be surprised how many people whom own them completely don't comprehend the laws and rights as an NFA owner!!!
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Originally posted by Bronson90 Bronson90 wrote:

To expound upon Rancids comments and provide further clarification...

Appendix A, NFA, 26 U.S.C. Chapter 53, Section 479.71 Proof of registration; an ATF agent is the ONLY person whom you must provide "proof of legal ownership (copy of your form 1 or 4)" too...

Local law enforcement officials, sheriff/constables, game wardens and certainly over zealous Range Officers have absolutely no authority or business asking about your right to own or request to see your proof of ownership.

You'd be surprised how many people whom own them completely don't comprehend the laws and rights as an NFA owner!!!

With a fair bit of experience in this area, I'll say this:

Tell a cop he has no authority to ask to see your paperwork, and he may make you stand in an uncomfortable position while he locates and brings in an ATFE agent.  You are correct, only an ATF agent "must" be shown your documentation, but cops least of all know these rules, and getting pissy with a cop never goes well, even when the cop is wrong.

Additionally, tell a range owner/operator you don't have to show him anything is a nice way to be kicked off the range - after you've paid to shoot on the range.

I've had cops tell me to leave because my suppressor was illegal.  I've had cops tell me I cannot own a short-barrel rifle.  On restricted firearms, everyone is an expert, my advice is a slow-burn fuse, it helps nothing to tell all they are wrong - even though they usually are.

I've taken out my paperwork for more than a few over the years, and it has always ended well.  There is MUCH misinformation about suppressors and automatics and SBRs, best to roll with it and educate as you can.
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And, for frame of reference, that comes from a guy that, by nature, can be quite a dick - without even trying.
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