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Looking for inexpensive scope recommendations for H&R .45/70 handi-rifle. Swift 3x9x50 recommended by dealer in competitor. Any thoughts on this scope? I have hear concerns about eye relief.
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I have a Bushnell 4200 3-9x40 on my 45-70 and have not hit myself in the eye yet.  Great scope for the money and only $249 at SWFA.com

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I don't think I would go over 2-8x.  I'd look at some of the Burris lower powered models. 
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I have the same gun and put a 4X IOR on it.  Mine is a "primitive weapon" gun for Mississippi season.  It might also be used on a hog.

I like the 4X because it reminds me the bullet drops off fast.  With a 3-9X, at 9X your mind will tell you the distance ain't what it really is.  I prefer the fixed frame of reference of a 4X, it is always 4X.  And the scope is durable as hell.

That's just me.



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RC, very good thoughts. I have a 4x on my Lott and have toyed with the idea of putting a higher mag scope on it (IF I don't just go back to the iron sights). You helped me convince myself. If it stays scoped, the 4x is it. I really like those iron sights, though.
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I can't imagine that 50 mm bell clearing the rear site. I have the 30/30 handirifle pictured that I set up for my oldest as his first 'deer" rifle 5 years back. I mounted a Bushnell Elite 3200 2-7 on it and it has functioned just fine . The rainguard may even be a hunt saver , and for a bit under $200, it's not a bank breaker. I really can't see a need for a 3-9 on a 45/70 rifle . I have 2 Marlin 1895's and a 45/70 barrel for my Encore . They wear scopes with a top end of 6X ( 4200 Elites) and 8x ( vari-XIII ) > more than enough magnification for the round.
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I agree with the lower powers on a 45/70, 1-4x, 2-7x or fixed 4x something in this power range is just "right" for this type of weapon.
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Thanks for the insight,I will not have any shots over 100yds. How about mounting rings.Louisiana just passed the new Prmitive weapon" law.It gives us 14 extra days of hunting. with pre 1900 weapons
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Base from H&R .. I went with Leupold Weaver style  high mounts to clear the hammer( as in the photo) ,,but any Weaver style high mount will work, however , with the 45/70, I'd go with a quality steel mount .

 
Also , check out the Buffalo Bore ammo website- has outstanding higher performance 45/70 stuff
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Originally posted by kinglarry kinglarry wrote:

Looking for inexpensive scope recommendations for H&R .45/70 handi-rifle. Swift 3x9x50 recommended by dealer in competitor. Any thoughts on this scope? I have hear concerns about eye relief.
.....................A 3X9-50 RECOMMENDED BY A DEALER FOR A 45-70???? Furious... YEAH! I HAVE A THOUGHT!! TOO MUCH SCOPE FOR THAT RIFLE!......Furious
 
H&R calls it a handi-rifle for a reason. It`s shorter, lighter, more compact and it is designed for aiming speed, should that need ever arise, in thicker cover and at short to moderate hunting ranges. That`s what your rifle is. It`s NOT a longer range plains rifle. It`s maybe a 150 to 225 yard round max., but you certainly don`t have IMO, a 250 yard and beyond flatter shooting hunting cartridge in a 45/70! UNLESS your punching holes in paper, taking pot shots at small ground hogs, why scope it like a 270, 7mm, 30-06 or something with even more speed??
 
A 3x9-50 scope weighs what? 16 to 17 oz. or more?? With that huge obj. bell too??Ridiculous on the H&R!
 
A 1x3, a 1x4, at the most a 1.5 x5, that weighs 8 to 10 oz., should be the max. for the rifle! Also on that rifle IMO, a LOWER profiled scope with no objective bell, will LOOK the best and function the best.
 
Scopes like these, with a STRAIGHT tube, set on the lower powers will give you great and better FOV`s, great target acquisition speed while allowing both eyes to remain open, which BTW, will increase your speed to the target, as opposed to squinting with one eye closed using any conventional 3x9!..........
 
Consider these! Great choices for yout H&R!
 
1-3x20 Weaver V3 (8.5 oz.), w/ 3.5" of eye relief on the 3x and 4.0" on the 1x. The 3.12" listed is wrong! Great little scope for $150. Reviews from owners on other sites with the V3 mounted on .375`s, larger DGR`s and powerful lever carbines, give it the best 5 star rating.
 
The Leupolds in either the VX2 1-4x20 or the VX3 1.5-5x20. (9.5 oz. or less)
 
Sightron Big Sky 1.25-5x20. Heavier if I remember, but still ok.
 
Bushnell Elite 1x or 1.25-4. Don`t remember the weight.
 
Something along those lines!
 
On any deer sized or larger game, that you would or could hunt with a 45/70, at that calibers range, a 3x to 5x scope on the high end, is very sufficient!!
 
Don`t screw up that rifle`s main theme by putting a 3x9 on it, let alone a 50mm objective bell......Ridiculous!!LocoLocoLocoLoco   
 
 
 
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Originally posted by kinglarry kinglarry wrote:

Thanks for the insight,I will not have any shots over 100yds. How about mounting rings.Louisiana just passed the new Prmitive weapon" law.It gives us 14 extra days of hunting. with pre 1900 weapons
.............100 yard shots or less? Geees!ALL THE MORE REASON WHY a lighter, a shorter, lower profiled, straight tubed and quicker aiming scope!! 2x7`s and 2x8`s @100 yards or less, are still too much!! 
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I have tried the swift 3-9x40 on my 444 marlin in the Handi rifle and did not like the big eye piece. But in that case I have also had a VXI 3-9x40, Pentax Gameseeker 3-9x50(came on the gun) and a Buckmaster 3-9x50. All just too big. I am going to a monarch UCC 2-7x32mm  before hunting season. I liked the buckmaster but it just mounted to high. the cost of the monarch is about the same as the rest but you get better glass and a scope that fits the gun.

Nikon 2-7x32 Monarch UCC Riflescope
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$179.95
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Nikon 2-7x32 Monarch UCC Riflescope
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$179.95
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I'm liking that 4x IOR but my all time favorite for a brush scope is a 1x aimpoint with a 2moa dot
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I just put a Zeiss Conquest 4X32 on my 45-70 Ruger no.1  -  PERFECT!!!
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