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My question is when using Weaver Detachable Top Mount 1" Rings is it ok to have the screws on opposite sides of the scope barrel.  That is with one ring "facing" right and one ring facing left.
 
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  HEY,Phil.  WELCOME to OT.
 
  My initial thought to your post was why would he need to mount them opposite each other? 
 
  If you've never used these type rings before your going to find out that the scope will torque towards the screws used for tightening the rings on to it.  So if you have them opposite each other you will be torqueing the scope in two different directions.  Can it damage the scope?  I'd not want to take the chance but at the least I'd say you'd be putting unwanted stress on it. 
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Jedi,
 
Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.  What you stated is why I reversed the direction of clamping/torque to equalize the direction of torque.  But I could be wrong.
 
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You want the screws facing the same direction for any sort of rings like that.  Chances are very low that the rings, when torqued, will end up exactly centered above the base.  If you mount them in opposite directions you'll be trying to kink your scope into an "S" shape to some extent.
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Bad idea.

Keep the screws on the same side.  Whether it will do any permanent damage to the scope or not is hard to say.  I suppose it will vary on a case by case basis.  However, you will most definitely end up contorting the scope into some shape non conducive to proper use.

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Thanks everyone and while I still evaluating the propriety of having reversed Weaver rings on my 1" Nikon scope, I did ask Weaver.  They said reversing rings would not cause a problem and was OK.  Mine are the detachable extended rings with two screws per ring. 
 
I am not finished with the scope even though I have zeroed in [M1A NM] and will try to secure a torque wrench in inches/lbs to dial in the figures Weaver gave me for the rings and attachment to the rail.  My torque wrenches are auto/motorcycle and can't go that low.
 
I do appreciate your experiences and insights...thanks again.
 
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  Good luck to ya,Phil.  Let us know how you make out if you would.
 
 
 
 
 
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I had a pair of them they were the absolutely worst rings I have ever had made huge scrape marks on the scope and were quite unacceptable.  Buy lightweight Talley ringmounts and you will have a lot less trouble.

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  +1
 
  I've got about 6 sets but only use the one set of lows I have anymore.  For some reason (maybe a variance in manufacturing of the steel strap?) some go on a scope w/o a problem. 
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Mine seems to fit and a local in my gun club, a gunsmith, gave me a small amount of rosin to put in cradle of the rings to hold it against recoil.  After some movement when I put in the rosin it held fast.  FYI, the Bassett Machine folks, the mount on my M1A, recommended these rings.
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  Over the yrs I've found that it doesn't take much tightening of those screws at all to hold a scope.  Only two things that I find to be a pain about them is SOMETIMES a strap won't go on a scope and then there's the trial and error of getting the reticle plumb.  Other than that they are a VERY STRONG set-up.  Yea,they're not as refined as some others but then again they don't cost as much either. 
   I've been using a set on a 9.3x62  M98 Mauser w/a 2-7x32 Viper.  Hasn't failed yet and don't figure they will. 
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Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

 
  Over the yrs I've found that it doesn't take much tightening of those screws at all to hold a scope.  Only two things that I find to be a pain about them is SOMETIMES a strap won't go on a scope and then there's the trial and error of getting the reticle plumb.  Other than that they are a VERY STRONG set-up.  Yea,they're not as refined as some others but then again they don't cost as much either. 
   I've been using a set on a 9.3x62  M98 Mauser w/a 2-7x32 Viper.  Hasn't failed yet and don't figure they will. 

I've used a few sets of these over the years.  They are not the most refined rings out there, but they seem to work all right.

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The ones I had a problem with is the new style of Weaver that has two seperate bars across the top of each ring so 4 screws on each ring.  I have used the old style Weaver rings that clamp on one side and tighten with two screws on the other side of each ring.  these at the ones that suck:
Weaver Quad Lock Detachable 1 Weaver Quad Lock Detachable 1" Rings
Stock # - 49074     Thumbs Down
  • Gloss
  • Medium
  • Aluminum
$11.95
 These are the ones that work OK
Weaver Detachable Top Mount 1 Weaver Detachable Top Mount 1" Rings
Stock # - 49041WEA     Thunbs Up
  • Matte
  • Medium
$19.95

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The ones I've used successfully were the Top Mount rings.

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I have the second pair you posted on an old 30.06 and I had a he'll of a time mounting the scope so the reticle was plumb... the other type I had np issues with
 
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The top mount rings work the others destroy scopes

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Have been laughed at, ridiculed, "you name it" because I use the top mounts. Maybe they´re not tacticool enough. (they are called grandpa rings in SwedenWink)
 
The Quad Lock rings looks like an over-engineered, over-designed product......what have they gained compared to the top mount?
 
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     "Have been laughed at, ridiculed, "you name it" because I use the top mounts. Maybe they´re not tacticool enough. (they are called grandpa rings in SwedenWink)"
 
 
   I have no problem using them at all.   But I do have some where the strap wouldn't go on to the scope without scratching the finish.
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When I was working in Germany, I met a fella that had his .416 Rigby set up with the Weaver Top Mount rings (forgot what scope he had) and plain jane Weaver bases.  He told me it hasn't shifted in eight years.  His counterparts were mad because they had expensive EWA custom mounts on their African Rifles, for literally 15x the price of his weaver set up.

All my scopes have Weaver Top Mount or Quad lock, I use (but don't care for) the Quad Locks because that's all I can find where I live.  I will replace the Quads with Top Mounts this summer.
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