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I'm currently trying to decide on a new scope. I now use a 3X9 Sightron which has never failed. I could use just a little more magnification at times.( 50 year old eyes) Ranges will be 50-200 yds +/-  on ground hogs and feral cats.
I am looking at a Bushnell Legend 5X15, Bushnell Trophy 4X12, and the Super Sniper 10X. The Bushnells will suit my needs but I like the features and toughness of the Super Sniper.
I know the SS 10X is a good scope for the money but do you think I'll be at much of a disadvantage by a fixed 10X? How close can you see the target through a 10X? I won't be shooting at running targets.
I'm looking to spend between $200-$300.
I'd appreciated your opinions on these scopes. Thanks
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If you need a little more magnification, why not simply upgrade to a 3-12x42 Sightron S2?  I am pretty sure one can be found for around $300 or a little less.

Both Bushnells are a significant step down if you are using a SIghtron (Sightron S2, I presume?).  Super Sniper is avery tough tactical scope, but I do not think you really need all that for your aplication.  OPtically, Super Sniper is a perfectly serviceable scope, but I think you'll be happier with Sightron S2.

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Thanks for your input. I have the Sightron I 3X9X40 and like it very much. I had considered the Sightron II. Do you think it's as good as the Bushnells that I'm considering?
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Sighton S1 is about on par with the Bushnells you are considering.  Sightron S2 is a couple of steps above them.

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Better......... unless you start looking at the 4200 Elite.
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The SII 3-12 is a very good choice and upgrade for your application as koshkin has recommended.
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For the max. 200 yards you specify, the 3-9X range you already have is perfectly adequate, as is 1.5-6X even.  The 3-12 mentioned is also a good choice due to the versatile magnification range and good FOV on the low end, not because 12X is really needed for 200 yd shots on the high end.  I see a tendency many people have toward overscoping their rifles, believing more is better when it comes to magnification.  Why spend the extra $, have the additional weight and bulk, and the reduced brightness and FOV when it isn't really necessary?

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Originally posted by RifleDude RifleDude wrote:

For the max. 200 yards you specify, the 3-9X range you already have is perfectly adequate, as is 1.5-6X even.  The 3-12 mentioned is also a good choice due to the versatile magnification range and good FOV on the low end, not because 12X is really needed for 200 yd shots on the high end.  I see a tendency many people have toward overscoping their rifles, believing more is better when it comes to magnification.  Why spend the extra $, have the additional weight and bulk, and the reduced brightness and FOV when it isn't really necessary?

 

Not to mention "mirage walls", right RD??? 

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SIghtorn S2 3-12x42 is about the same size as the 3-9x42.  The extra magnification is not really needed in the field, but can be useful at the range.  The biggest difference will be in optical quality if you step up to the S2.

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Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

Not to mention "mirage walls", right RD??? 

 

AH, yes, the dreaded MIRAGE WALL, that evil, inpenetrable heat shimmy that jumps and bites us all when we least expect it!

 

I agree the extra X on the upper end won't hurt if you don't pay a penalty for it somewhere else in the optic, I just think that better optical quality is more useful to aging eyes than increase in magnification alone.

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My 3X9 does pretty well. I've never used a scope over 9X.

 I shot some new .223- 50 gr. V-Max loads this weekend at 200 yds. The groundhog targets I was using were getting a little small at that distance.

10X or 12X maybe just about right.

 

 

 

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Originally posted by houser52 houser52 wrote:

My 3X9 does pretty well. I've never used a scope over 9X.

 I shot some new .223- 50 gr. V-Max loads this weekend at 200 yds. The groundhog targets I was using were getting a little small at that distance.

10X or 12X maybe just about right.

 

 

 



Magnification is not all its cracked up to be.  A higher quality scope at the same magnification will make the target much clearer.  Anyhow, going with a 3-12x will probably give you a little more magnification without giving anything up.

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koshkin,

 

I've done some searching on here and it seems like you're the resident "go to guy" regarding Sightron scopes.

With that said, I've started looking around for a SII 3X12X42. I've found a few new ones still for sale. Looking at Sightron's website, it seems they have been replaced by another model.

Lock, Stock and Barrel has them for a fair price.

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Contact SWFA and see if they can find you one. They've been able to beat other prices when I ordered from them.

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Well I ordered a Sightron II 3X12X42 Mil Dot yesterday from Lock, Stock and Barrel. No shipping charges either. 

I called SWFA to get a price 2 days ago but no one ever called me back so I went ahead and ordered from someone who had one in stock.

It would be nice to have it here by the weekend. The weatherman is calling for sunny skies and highs in the 50s Saturday and Sunday.

A few days will give me time to load some more of my best .223 loads so I can get the new scope sighted in. It will also give me some time to read up on the Mil Dot feature and how to use it.

Thanks to all for your input. I'll post later on the scope's performance.

 

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