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I've always looked at Meopta as being value for the money, but here in Scandinavi, a Meostar 10x42HD cost about the same as a Swarovski SLC.

But on the other hand, the standard Meostar 10x42 Binos is the same price as Minox binos, and a little bit cheaper than Conquest HD binos.

So how good is the non HD standard binos? Will I be surprised by the optical quality when I normally use a cheap Vortex Dianmondback 10x50, and find that Bino great?
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Yes the non hd are very good binos
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Good to hear. Of course its cheaper than HD but I dont see much value in the HD when it reaches Swarovski prices.
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The Meopta Meostar binos of all flavors are excellent, whether they include the magic HD optics or not. The non-HD Meostars have some noticeable CA, but not to an objectionable degree; CA is still well controlled. They aren't quite alpha-level, but they are as good or better than anything else at the same price point.
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In addition to the moderate/mild CA Ted mentioned, the non-HD Meostars also show warmer color, while the HD is quite neutral.
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Yes, I was going to say that, but I didn't know if it was just my eyes or not. I notice a very slight amber color bias in the non-HD Meostars. It's not something I personally find objectionable, and I'm not even sure if I would have noticed it very readily had I not been comparing the Meostars head to head against Swaro SLC and Zeiss FL (both of which have a cooler color rendition to my eyes) at the time.

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My understanding is that the yellowish bias is a contrast enhancing feature.  The warmer/yellow tones will serve to enhance earth tones, making it easier to spot gray deer, brown antlers and other more neutral colors found on game animals.  It might well decrease brightness on brighter colors, but reds will still be red etc.

I think mostly that the color bias thing can be really over rated/over stated/over emphasized.  Yes there is a yellowish tint in a non HD x42 mm Meostar.  If you just look through the binocular after you use it a time or two, you will not even realize it is there.  The "hunters tint" was also the reason the early Swarovski (pre swarobright) had a yellow tint as well.

I tend to look at the color bias in binoculars much the same way I look at sunglasses.  Two people may well prefer two tints in the same situation.  Or, for that matter the same person may prefer different bias in binocular performance for different circumstances.

I had a Steiner 8x30 Predator porro for awhile.  It had a pretty vivid violet tinge, almost annoyingly so.  It actually did its game enhancing function pretty well, and since I didn't let it get the best of me, I simply did not notice it after a few minutes.  If it would have been the only binocular I used, I'm pretty sure it would not have taken long before I would not have even noticed it.  That "violent violet" is a lot more aggressive than the "mellow yellow" of the Meopta, which is really pretty mild.

I basically have a hard time thinking the Meopta would not be a good choice, given the circumstances.

On the other hand, the original Meostar was almost too close to the pre Swarovisions as to be too close to call.  It might be the same is true of the new Meopta HD.  I have not had the chance to look at the new Meopta, but as I understand it the only one that truly has the HD glass is the Meopta HD 10x42.  The Cabela's HD is marketer's gack.



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Originally posted by Klamath Klamath wrote:

 I have not had the chance to look at the new Meopta, but as I understand it the only one that truly has the HD glass is the Meopta HD 10x42.  The Cabela's HD is marketer's gack.</span>



I thought the same thing about the Cabelas HD 8X32 when I first saw it advertised, but a Meopta (not Cabelas) rep at SHOT said they did have flourite glass, and it would be coming to the rest of the Meostar binocular line. At least, that is how I understood what he was saying. Now, I have discovered some booth reps don't have a clear understanding about their product lines, so take that for what it is worth. One interesting note though, is Cabelas did have a 10X42 HD Euro available before Meopta had an HD Meostar available, so it would follow the pattern.

The funny thing is the non-hd 8x32 is very well corrected for CA, and I doubt it would really benefit much from "HD" objectives anyway.
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Originally posted by Bitterroot Bulls Bitterroot Bulls wrote:

Originally posted by Klamath Klamath wrote:

 I have not had the chance to look at the new Meopta, but as I understand it the only one that truly has the HD glass is the Meopta HD 10x42.  The Cabela's HD is marketer's gack.</span>



I thought the same thing about the Cabelas HD 8X32 when I first saw it advertised, but a Meopta (not Cabelas) rep at SHOT said they did have flourite glass, and it would be coming to the rest of the Meostar binocular line. At least, that is how I understood what he was saying. Now, I have discovered some booth reps don't have a clear understanding about their product lines, so take that for what it is worth. One interesting note though, is Cabelas did have a 10X42 HD Euro available before Meopta had an HD Meostar available, so it would follow the pattern.

The funny thing is the non-hd 8x32 is very well corrected for CA, and I doubt it would really benefit much from "HD" objectives anyway.

Confusion reigns supreme Smile.  There was a Meopta Rep over on another forum that flatly stated Meopta has no plans for any more new HD's.  I thought that sounded strange.  I had heard Cabela's stuff didn't have HD from sources I figured knew what was what.  I really agree with the segment of your post I bold faced.  It does seem the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing.  Company websites are often worse.

I really like the non HD 8x32.  I do sometimes wonder just what the actual benefit of the HD glass really is in hand held binocular magnification ranges.  I suppose it has most possible benefit to those sensitive to CA.  I thank my lucky stars that I don't see it.
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As someone that is quite sensitive to CA, and has owned both the non-HD and HD 10X42 Meostar models, I can say the difference in CA control is quite obvious, to me.

In fact, the Meostar HD's CA control is as good as the best, IMO.
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Just for clarification, but the Cabela's Euro 10x42 HD and MeoStar B1 10x42 HD BOTH have fluorite objective lens elements in the objective.
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Originally posted by MeoptaSurujh MeoptaSurujh wrote:

Just for clarification, but the Cabela's Euro 10x42 HD and MeoStar B1 10x42 HD BOTH have fluorite objective lens elements in the objective.


Does the Cabelas Euro 8x32 HD ? 
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