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after looking i still cant find out how to save any money reloading, after buying bullets about 40 cents each (30 cal). powder for a 300 wsm you need about 60g a shot and at $20 for a lb of powder its going to cost $40 in powder alone to do 20 shots. then with primers and ect. i dont see any way to reload cheaper then buying factory. maybe im just looking at the wrong products and if i am can someone point me in the direction to be able to reload a box of ammo for less then factory bought ammo i would be very thankful!

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lets try the math out.

1 lb of powder $20
1 box of 100 sierra bullets (.308) 180gr $25
1 box of primers $5

1lb of powder is 7000gr, even if you load them with 70gr powder you get 100rounds per pound.
so that being said you dump $50 into 5 boxes of ammo. show me where you can buy 5 boxes of factory ammo for $50 for a 300 wsm
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Okay wow, i read something wrong somewhere haha
i saw something saying there was about 550g in a pound of powder, thanks pyro
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maybe its 550 grams not grains, i just checked, one pound is about 455 grams.
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Yeah thats what i got confused with, thanks for the help!
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WHere you really save the money is in the brass.  Only having to buy brass every 6 to 10 loads saves you a ton.  If you don't load hot and anneal your brass every 3rd firing brass can last for a good long time. 

The part I like most about reloading is when I need some ammo, I just go downstairs and make what I need.  Bucky
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glad we got that cleared up.  Big Smile

I reload my 300 WM for 54 cents a round right now.  Less for my 270 and 22-250.  I have yet to find a box of ammo for that cheap.  That cost would be higher if I was shooting the premium Accubonds or Barnes, but even then you save a lot of money compared to buying a factory box of ammo with them in there.

Now if you calculate the cost of the equipement the cost goes up a little, but over the course of my so far short life, I have easily paid it off and the cost is far less than buying all the ammo for the amount of shooting I do.
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Depends what you're loading. You could, for example hit Wideners for bulk bullets or pick up blems from a variety of reloading supply places online, use cheap brass and buy primers and powder in bulk. But if you're loading for accuracy, it gets harder to save money. In fact, loading 165 gr. Accubonds for my .308s if I factor in all the reloading equipment I have (and it's not excessive), the components and my time, I load for almost the same as if I just went and bought boxes of Federal Premium (which is no longer an option anyway since they discontinued that load).
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helo if you dont mind sharing the load thats 54 cents a shot i would be thankfull

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Very hard to put a price on the satisfaction and enjoyment you get from taking game with your personal hand rolled ammo.  What's even better, is when a buddy or family member is successful using ammo you hand loaded for them.

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Right now, Wideners, for instance, has a sale on .308 145 gr. FMJ boat tails. Buy 2000 and you'll pay 13.3 cents. I recently paid 46 cents apiece for .308 165 gr. Accubonds, in comparison. However, another thing to think about is how much do you want/need to shoot a particular round? Last year I handloaded 400 rounds of .308 and 99 are still sitting around. I develop my handloads for hunting and take coldbore shots every 5-10 minutes at the range, interspersed with 10-30 rounds of .22 LR. So I'll go to the range for 2 hours and fire 12-20 rounds of high-power and 200+ rounds of rimfire.

For you handgun loaders out there, I imagine loading is much cheaper - less powder, less wear and tear on the brass (but what do I know?). I could see bullets being the main cost there.
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you can buy pistol brass for next to nothing
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I just put my money in the bank when I want to save it Cool
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

you can buy pistol brass for next to nothing


And it seems like that stuff never wears out. 
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We don't have money in the bank, but I have reloading supplies! Try shooting that money in the bank and see how much fun that is. In almost 50 years of big game hunting, I have never taken any game with a factory load. Has my equipment payed for it's self? In my mind yes, but if you don't want to reload, don't do it.
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The evil truth is that you don't save any more money, but you do get to shoot more for the same amount.Dirty Harry

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Originally posted by Johnny Johnny wrote:

We don't have money in the bank, but I have reloading supplies! Try shooting that money in the bank and see how much fun that is. In almost 50 years of big game hunting, I have never taken any game with a factory load. Has my equipment payed for it's self? In my mind yes, but if you don't want to reload, don't do it.
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I can see a future very similar to this...

I have done it for many reasons some include just time to myself and the peace and quiet and sense of accomplishment and accuracy from knowing I DID THAT...

NO EXCUSES ONCE YOU LOAD YOUR OWN IT IS ONLY YOUR FAULT AT THAT POINT...

Loading to me is done at 1/5-1/10 on certain calibers with better accuracy and outcomes.

Case in point a .338 Lapua Magnum Loaded by Custom Shop Solid or Specialty Purpose Ammo AP  by Lapua is around 11.50-13.50 per round.  A standard 250 scenar or lockbase is around 4.50-4.80 per round. 

Loaded at 100 grains so 70 shots per pound  at $30 per pound $.43 per round for powder brass say $.25 per round  Bullets for .860-.880 BC 245-265gr around .60-.75  per round or bullets for 250gr .40-.45 per round.

It is very much a savings.

.308 or .223 can be done for as little as 1/20th to 1/30th


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During the 1990's reloading in South Africa became just as pricey as factory loads. Do no know the reason, but probably all around exchange rates, export parity and excessive mark-ups by importers.
However, the pendulum has swung in favour of reloading again and I reload for at least half the price of the cheapest factory round. So now I shoot twice as much and save a lot of money!! Heck, I tell myself each time I pull the trigger "OK, just saved another $1 !!!!"
 
Our cheapest round for a 308Win is around $1.80 and the more expensive can go to $2.50. I can load for under $1.


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I started out reloading for a somewhat rare and pricey Euro caliber and at first, I did save a bunch of money with my little Lee handloader kit.
Sure, you'll save money, but probably end up spending it on gadgetry and eventually, a bigger house just to have room for all of your stuff. Just this week I bought yet another reloading gadget which I've done without for over 30 years because it was on closeout sale for almost 1/2 price. Did I need another quasi- useful doodad? Absolutely! There's no end to it.
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You could always play golf!!!   Probably spend just as much time in the woods....Whistling
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Originally posted by budperm budperm wrote:

You could always play golf!!!   Probably spend just as much time in the woods....Whistling
Hey! I'll have you know I can shoot a 69. No wait... that's the front 9.

Have you been following me around?
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As long as you don't mention its only 9 holes it sounds good dont it!

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