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Now this is a question about the majority's opinion about the 4200 being better than the monarch on the quality/price thread. Are the new monarchs out and being compared or does this apply to the older models? I've only seen one person talk at length about the newer ones and he had access to a stock of them in a sporting goods store. He was of the opinion they were tight on FOV and said they widely varied optically from model to model. Interesting comments although I've had no experience with any of them........I always thought they were pretty much considered to be the equal of the 4200's optically. Has the step towards the longer constant eye relief and 4 fold power range changed their position optically or still the same UCC coatings and lenses as before? Just interested in real world opinions and not bashing either way.

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i have one of the new monarch 5-20-44's.to my eye it looks as good or better brightness and clarity wise than burris black diamond and signature. these were the best i had to compare it to. keep in mind though that i looked through the burris' at the shop[out the door] and the monarch at home so i technically didn't have them side by side.

fov wise i noticed that with the reticle focused all the way down the image[fov] was noticeably smaller than most and almost restrictive, but then i wound the reticle out til blurry. i then returned to focus[only just] which was ~5mm shy of all the way, and the field of view is now good and virtually normal while still keeping good reticle focus.

over all very satisfied!
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Thank you for the feed-back...........I have always been kinda leery of the nikon monarchs for a couple reasons, any looked thru have had very critical eye position with much movement in any direction blacking out the sight picture. I always called that the "donut" effect, I know not very technical sounding but quite descriptive. Their past service record as posted on by many owners on optics sites also sort of kept me away from taking the plunge and buying one. I've been waiting to hear what owners of the new redesigned monarchs have to say since the changes....... I know moving any of the traditional optics triangle positions tends to effect the eye box for lack of a better wording and wondered how this has effected the eye position and sight picture. The elites - conquests - and leupolds I have used have been IMO a good compromise between eye relief, FOV, and sight picture although at higher powers the 4200's do get kinda tight. I guess I'm just curious if the new monarchs warrant a closer look since the reworking? Anybody else with hands (or should I say eyes) thru experience let me know how they compare to others you may use.......

I have come to the conclusion at this point that currently with ALL points considered and compared in the $350-550 price range that the conquests have come the closest to being my favorite scope. That said I find the lack of a good foul weather lens coating and weight to still be a noteworthy drawback with that line.

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I'm not sure but it seems I read somewhere that the glass for Bushnell, Pentax, and Nikon come from Kyocera.

If that's true and if then they are all using the same quality, then only the grinding, and coatings would be the difference, all other things being equal of course.

Does anyone or can anyone verify this, I'm curious.  

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