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    Posted: August/25/2006 at 15:47

We have a limited supply of the all new Simmons 3-9x32 Adjustable Objective compact rimfire scopes IN STOCK.

 

Part of the new 22-Mag family, this scope is a new design from the ground up.

 

Introductory price of $59.95 includes a FREE set of rimfire rings.

 

If you have a rimfire in need of a scope, don't let this deal pass you by.

 

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SO I get this scope today.

I can't believe I'm doing an eval on a 60 buck scope. The spousal unit has some time scheduled for me with the psych folks on Tuesday............

Says Designed and Engineered in the U.S.A.

serial numbered

Manufactured in China

Packaged very well, comes with cleaning cloth, decent instruction manual covering installation, bore sighting, focus and parallax, and the ususal warranty procedures.

Looks tough enough for it's intended purpose, has 80 usable moa elevation which diminishes to 72 on my rifle with 7moa windage correction. Dials are easy to read, somewhat audible and tactile enough to adjust without looking at the dial if you need a few clicks added to your dope.

Ocular focus is good enough to provide a crisp crosshair image without my glasses on to help out.
Parallax is pretty much indexed for distance but I never pay attention to the actual numbers. I did this time just to see, and it's pretty accurate.

Glass..................damn it's surprisingly clear almost all the way to the edges. Image through the scope is nice.

Overall I'd say that this thing is in the 150-250 dollar range at least for initial impression.
I'll take it out and box test it tomorrow and see if it holds up.

Only downside if you could possibly be this petty is that the turrets are resettable but no wrench is provided.

Won't do the test till destruction thing, this isn'ty that kind of unit, but I think it's undervalued ALOT right now.

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I bought one.  Just got it today and haven't had time to put it through much testing, but so far, it seems to be at least as good as my Weaver Classic Rimfire 2-7, if not better, at less than half the price.   More later
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Hi: I was wondering what is the percentage of light transmission?? And the lens coating....Multi-coated..? Fully multi-coated. I'll go to the SWFA online store and look it up and read the product info and try and find my answers. This thread would be a good place to include this info being that it is being said to be equal to scopes that have fully multi-coated lens.
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Hi: I went to Simmons web site and all I could find is that they are "fully coated" I'm not sure where that falls in with multi-coated and fully multi-coated? I didn't see any info about the light transmission percentage....please share here if you run across it somewhere. Thanks
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This is from this post;

     RifleScope School

 

Lens Coatings
As light strikes an air-to-glass surface, a small percentage of light is reflected away to become stray light. This effect is limited when these glass surfaces are treated with a microscopic layer of refractive material, such as magnesium fluoride. To achieve multi-coating, several such refractive layers are applied. When properly applied, coatings can dramatically enhance light transmission properties by delivering more of the available light to the shooter's eye.
Types of coatings include;
Coated - A single layer on at least one lens surface.
Fully Coated - A single layer on all air to glass surfaces.
Multi-Coated - Multiple layers on at least one lens surface.
Fully Multi-Coated - Multiple layers on all air to glass surfaces.

coated vs. fully multi-coated
note - the term air to glass refers to internal and external lenses.  Air to glass means that both sides of every lens in side and outside of the scope that contacts air is coated.  The term air to glass is used because some lenses are glued together inside the scope and on side of each would not be touching air.

 

I don't have any numbers on the light transmission at this time.

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Thanks Chris for the info on lens coatings.
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I've had this scope a while now and have had a good bit of time to use it.  First, it's definitely worth $60.  If you're needing a rimfire scope and don't have much to spend, go for it.  It worked well on my Remington 504. 

 

What it doesn't do:  It's hard to use at 9X, because eyeposition is critical and it's just not very clear.  6X was about max for really usable viewing.Windage and elevation knobs are cheesy; they don't click much, just turn. 

 

I'll be putting my Weaver Rimfire Classic back on the 504.  It's a better scope, as it should be, but if something happened to it, I wouldn't hesitate to put the Simmons back on.

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So Mike,

 

How is the test coming?

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Do you still have these in stock?
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Yep.
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ba-50,

 

Been shooting this thing about every evening for the last few weeks.  Nice to have a decent rimfire scope with real adjustments to work with.

I've run this from 10 to 150 yards and found it to be repeatable and accurate in it's adjustments.

 

I have not experienced any eye strain that would indicate to me that the glass was  ground  or mounted improperly.  The unit does lose some clarity at 9x  from the image darkening enough to notice, but the scope has done everything it's been asked to do on an accurate rimfire rifle.

 

Overall I'd say that for under $200.00 you won't find a better deal.

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Thanks for the information Mike. When set on 9X would it be good in low light conditions while squirrel hunting?
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I don't think it would be a good application in low light at 9x. 
In full light it does darken noticably at that setting, and in dusk conditons it's marginally servicable for those targets not easiliy seen.

I did some dry fire at squirrels at dusk and found that about 6x is max for FOV and definition when you have a target up in the leaves and branches.  The scope is so clear  and crisp at that setting you wouldn't be giving anything up in terms of target location/identification and point of aim resolution.
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Hi Mike,

 

Thanks for the good report. I have been using a 4-12x so I am somewhat spoiled. It is too heavy though (Weaver V12 or Leupolds Vari-X III 3.5-10)

 

Mueller seems to have good scopes at a good price. I might suggest they come out with a rimfire size scope at say 3-10xor 3-12 with repeatable target turrets with enough elevation for 300 yards. Now that would be a great little scope if it is possible to make one like that.

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Hey all,

I just bought a CZ 452 Lux and I'm considering putting this scope on it.  I was wondering if anyone has this combination or could offer any thoughts on doing so.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mwyates Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/12/2007 at 07:45
All  the stuff written above should give a pretty good idea what to expect; good scope for the money, but if you can afford it, get a better one.  I still have mine, but it's on the shelf as a backup.
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I am looking for a scope to put on a Ruger M77/22 Factory stainless I would like it in nickel do they have it? Or I would like some recommendations I would spend up to 150.00. Thanking you in advance, I am
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I went ahead and ordered the simmons for my ruger, hope its as good as they say...Thanks
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Quick question on this scope.  I have a Simmons 8 Point Scope 4x 32mm Truplex Reticle Matte scope.  While the scope works great out to 50 yards anything over that in distance it is hard to find the bulls eye on the target because the cross hair is as thick as 2 smallest rings on a 8 inch target.  Does this scope have a finer crosshair?  I am looking for a better scope in the 100 -200 dollar range or less that will work on a customized 10/22 out to 100-150yards.  Most of the shooting is at the range, but will also be used on pesky rodents. Thanks for you imput
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Yes the reticle is finer than the 4x32 8-Point.
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Bought the simmons 3x9x32 mag. It seemsd to be all it says. SO far everything great.
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Based mostly on the information here, I bought one of these scopes, and I have a couple of quick questions: 

I don't have a lot of experience with rifle scopes.  My intention is to mount this on my Remington 597.  I did a dry run today using the rings that come with the scope, mounting it to the grooved receiver, and I had two problems.  First, when I tightened the rings up finger-tight, it cocked the scope up and to the left.  I had figured that if this is sold as a rimfire scope, then the rings would fit a grooved receiver, but they just didn't seem to fit right.  Are these rings made to fit a Weaver rail? 

Second, the objective bell was hitting on the rear sight of the rifle.  If I had the scope back far enough to clear the rear sight, it was way to close to my eye.  If I had the objective bell far enough forward to clear the rear sight, the rings wouldn't fit on the groove in the receiver.  The receiver is drilled and tapped for a weaver rail.  If I find one and install it, can I make these problems go away? 

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Found that the rings fit some receivers and not others.  On my nylon66 there are no issues.  On the Mossberg 144LSB the rings do what you described.  the receiver is too "High" in the middle of the curve to let the rings work properly.  Weaver mount cured this.

 

Second part of your dillema, I took the rear sight off the Mossberg for that reason, but it's made to dismount easily.  A waver mount might elevate the ocular to the point you would not come into contact with the rear sight but you'd need to be the final authority on that one.

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