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Does anyone know if the federal Gun Free School Zones law precludes gun possession on highways? I couldn't imagine that it could preclude possession on the primary roadways that provide transportation over vast regions and that don't even have direct access to schools that happen to be near them. If it does preclude possession in such cases, that alone would pretty much eliminate any practical possession on highways all together.

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im thinking you have to remain so many feet from the school zone, if your passing through the area it doesnt matter, i think its only applied to you if your parked near the school.
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I don't think it applies to highways.   Only school grounds.  You can have a gun in your vehicle in a school parking lot, but it has to be unloaded and out of plain sight.  That's my understanding, anyways. 
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sad thing is, that in the late 90's when i was in high school in wyoming you knew when it was deer and elk season, every truck at the school had at least one rifle hanging in the gun rack in the back window. after i graduated they put the kabosh to that no more guns within 1000ft of the school
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

sad thing is, that in the late 90's when i was in high school in wyoming you knew when it was deer and elk season, every truck at the school had at least one rifle hanging in the gun rack in the back window. after i graduated they put the kabosh to that no more guns within 1000ft of the school
 
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In '94 I kept my deer rifle in my football locker, which was in the basement of the school....I think a kid would get 3-5 for that now.

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The law outlines the zone as a perimeter that extends 1000 feet from the school property in every direction. The law itself does not outline any exclusions for highways, so as it stands, even possession on highways that travel within 1000 feet of a school is prohibitted. The only way there might be an exclusion for highways is if there were a court decision that added such exclusion or if the law had been amended, but I haven't been able to find any information to support either case and likewise it's still considered prohibited.
 
There is an exclusion for those with concealed carry permits that have met some specific guidelines, but many states either don't require or don't provide such permits and so that exclusion does not apply anyway.
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wouldnt work where i grew up the major road past our high school was the only road from town to the mountains and every hunter in the area went past the school inside of 1000 ft from the property line with guns in there trucks.
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Not all laws are enforced 100% the police are expected to use a certain amount of common sense and officer discression - there in lies the problem.  Laws are made by lawyers for lawyers to keep lawyers in business.
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Wow, we used to haul our fourwheelers to school in our trucks and we would cut class go out unload our wheelers in the parking lot take out rifles out of the trucks put them on our wheelers and drive off to the hills and hunt rabbits.  That wasn't even that long ago either.
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huhuh we didnt even have to cut class we would purposely schedule our work study for the afternoons so we wouldnt miss anything and risk suspension.
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Cutting class was half the fun.  Unloading the wheelers in the parking lot and driving off with the principle running after us was the other.  Roll on Floor Laughing
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we didnt have that problem our principal would say shoot one for me if you get the chance!

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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

wouldnt work where i grew up the major road past our high school was the only road from town to the mountains and every hunter in the area went past the school inside of 1000 ft from the property line with guns in there trucks.

That is exactly my point. This law essentially turns everyone into felons because highways are the primary roadways that provide access to primary or distant destinations, and are often the only roadways to provide access to such destinations at all.

If the law is not enforced, it still unreasonably places everyone at risk of becoming a felon under the discretion of an officer whom can still choose to enforce it under any given circumstance.

A law can not be acceptable simply because it is unenforced. If that were to be the norm, then the accumulation of such laws could make for an entire population that exists with only artificial freedom that is always susceptible to persecution. Laws must be written to be reasonably accepted as the norm without such vagueness and must be enforced equally as written to deter artificial freedom and selective persecution.

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In Texas even with a CHL you're obliged to stay 1001 feet from a school zone when a gun is in your possession.
If you are stopped in a school zone with a CHL, you just lost it for 6 months.
If you are stopped in a school zone with a CHL and are an ass, then the officer may choose to pursue federal charges in addition to state penalties.
Oddly, if I'm dropping my kids off, I can legally possess that same handgun on school property as long as it's in my car.   In Fort Worth the cops just smile.  In  Dallas county you'd be treated as a terrorist on a good day.
No one checks legal continuity before passing these statutes.
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It appears as though no one recognizes regional applicability before passing them either then. These things should instead be adopted on the city level.

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City's should never be given this latitude to write laws. Each borough you travel through would have its own rules and the small town police officers are the worst about over stepping the norm. Any small town with a school near a highway could be taken over by a no gun fanatic.   Shocked
Instead of speed traps it would be gun traps.


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Let me rephrase: restrictions should be decided on the local manicipality level depending on the nature of the populace, and protection on the federal level should be enabled for highways. My point was that restrictions on the federal level do not take into account for the nature of the populace. Just because a major city may want to impose a restriction does not mean it should apply universally to other areas where such restrictions are unwanted. But becauce higher populated areas have more federal pull due to more representatives, federal restrictions are able to be passed that are imposed upon regions that don't want such restrictions. As it stands, gun traps are now made available everywhere.
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