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Having thought about it a little, I decide to make "High End Tactical Scopes" a recurring them for an article series.

Here is the thread that links to parts 1 and 2:

I am now starting part 3 with the following contenders:
S&B PMII 4-16x50 (same scope as was used in Part II, for continuity)
Vortex Razor HD 5-20x50 (with new eyepiece)
Steiner 4-16x50 (this is one of the first few made)
Premier Light Tactical 3-15x50 (also one of the first few made)

At some point as I conduct this review, I expect to also get my hands onto March 3-24x42FFP, so I might pile that on as well.

I will once again use Jon's excellent Aadmounts for the test.  I was sufficiently impressed with them after the the previous article that I am now a proud owner of three of them: 35mm (for Vortex Razor HD), 34mm (for the Steiner) and 30mm (for the Premier Light Tactical) versions.

The scopes will be tested on a DTA SRS in 338LM, and a couple of AR-15s one chambered for 223Rem and another for 264LBC.

The S&B will only be used for optical comparisons, since I have thoroughly checked its mechanical quality in an earlier article.

Let the games begin!

ILya


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We are very blessed having your expert input on these things.  The Light tactical and Steiner will be well recieved reviews I am sure by the masses waiting on them!
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As David Allan Coe once said:
 
I WROTE HIM BACK A LETTER AND I TOLD HIM IT WAS NOT THE PERFECT COUNTRY & WESTERN SONG BECAUSE HE HADN�T SAID ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT MAMA (Zeiss),
OR TRAINS, (Hensoldt)
OR TRUCKS, (Kahles)
OR PRISON, (Steiner)
OR GETTING� DRUNK (Doctor Optik)
WELL HE SAT DOWN AND WROTE ANOTHER VERSE TO THE SONG
AND HE SENT IT TO ME,
AND AFTER READING IT,
I REALIZED THAT MY FRIEND HAD WRITTEN THE PERFECT
COUNTRY & WESTERN SONG
AND I FELT OBLIGED TO INCLUDE IT ON THIS ALBUM
THE LAST VERSE GOES LIKE THIS HERE:
 
????
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And one more time for non-native speakers...
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Just waitin' on the last verse, compadre, just waitin' on the last verse...
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

Just waitin' on the last verse, compadre, just waitin' on the last verse...

Well, you know me, so stock up some patience.  And then a little more patience. And the some more...

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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:

As David Allan Coe once said:
 
I WROTE HIM BACK A LETTER AND I TOLD HIM IT WAS NOT THE PERFECT COUNTRY & WESTERN SONG BECAUSE HE HADN�T SAID ANYTHING AT ALL ABOUT MAMA (Zeiss),
OR TRAINS, (Hensoldt)
OR TRUCKS, (Kahles)
OR PRISON, (Steiner)
OR GETTING� DRUNK (Doctor Optik)
WELL HE SAT DOWN AND WROTE ANOTHER VERSE TO THE SONG
AND HE SENT IT TO ME,
AND AFTER READING IT,
I REALIZED THAT MY FRIEND HAD WRITTEN THE PERFECT
COUNTRY & WESTERN SONG
AND I FELT OBLIGED TO INCLUDE IT ON THIS ALBUM
THE LAST VERSE GOES LIKE THIS HERE:
 
????


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Looking forward to the review.  
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Originally posted by Kickboxer Kickboxer wrote:


You know, all you have to do is stop by for a visit.  I'll be more than happy to drag you to the range with a couple of rifles, a bunch of scopes, a few boxes of ammo and a notebook...

ILya
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I am really looking forward to this review... ESP. the Premier LT scope!
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I can't wait either.

Thanks in advance, ILya.
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Quick update.

I received the Steiner, so I now have Steiner, S&B and Vortex Razor HD in my hands to start looking at.

Premier LT should be here soon as well.

Additionally, I talked to my contact at Bushnell and he will send me one of the new 3.5-21x50 scopes with 34mm tube that they introduced at SHOT.  The scope is a fair bit cheaper than the other ones here, but it looked pretty nice back at SHOT, so I want to look at it.  I should get it some time next month, so it will get here in time to do some side-by-side comparison.

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can't wait. 
 
Hows the Steiner look quality wise? impressed?
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

can't wait. 
 
Hows the Steiner look quality wise? impressed?

You'll have to wait for the article to get my impressions.

ILya
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

can't wait. 
 
Hows the Steiner look quality wise? impressed?

You'll have to wait for the article to get my impressions.

ILya
I was hoping for a spoilerBig Grin
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Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

Originally posted by SVT_Tactical SVT_Tactical wrote:

can't wait. 
 
Hows the Steiner look quality wise? impressed?

You'll have to wait for the article to get my impressions.

ILya
I was hoping for a spoilerBig Grin

Well, I suppose there is nothing wrong with hoping.

On a more serious note, the reason I take so long to put these article together is that it takes me a while to formulate an opinion.  If I knew how good it was right from the get go, what would be the purpose of all that testing?

ILya
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We expect nothing less of you ILya
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I hope the March 3-24x42 FFP will be there in time for the review, I´m not easily impressed, but having looked through a March once, I (with amateur-cap on) realized that their line of scopes are right there at the top.
 
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Ilya, I have been able to get my hands on a Vortex Razor (of course, A bit out of my reach for the moment) and I liked the scope.  My question is about the new eyepiece you mentioned.  What is it and what does it do?  Sorry if you posted this earlier and I missed it.
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Originally posted by Griffin99 Griffin99 wrote:

Ilya, I have been able to get my hands on a Vortex Razor (of course, A bit out of my reach for the moment) and I liked the scope.  My question is about the new eyepiece you mentioned.  What is it and what does it do?  Sorry if you posted this earlier and I missed it.

They redesigned the eyepiece for much better flexibility of eye position (and slightly wider field of view).  That addresses on of the very few complaints about the original Razor HD.

ILya
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