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hi everone!  i see u guys no your stuff on scops so i want to ask yalls opinon whether i should get a better scope than my leopold varix2 3x9 dont get me wrong it is a graete scope real clear but i want to see better and i was thinking maybe i shold get a higher power maybe 6x24 or 8x32 modle so i can see to shot at longer distence maybe up to 250 yards at dear and pigs and see better when its darker out.  i'm wiling to spend as much a $300 give or take.  what's yalls opinon?
 
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I don't think you are going to want a 6-24 or 8-32, especially if you take any close shots.  Plus you won't be able to use most of the power range as it gets dark.  If 250 is the max you will ever shoot, I would look at a 2-7 or 3-9 variable and find one with better glass than the varix 2.

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 I agree with helo-18, and will go a bit further to say that if you're limited to under $300, any improvement in glass quality over your Leupold will be fairly insignificant. Don't get me wrong, you can get better glass for $300, but if you want a lot better, you should budget a couple hundred more, in my opinion. A Conquest at around 400 would be a pretty good improvement, though.

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A Conquest at around 400 would be a GREAT improvement!
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Originally posted by RONK RONK wrote:

 

 I agree with helo-18, and will go a bit further to say that if you're limited to under $300, any improvement in glass quality over your Leupold will be fairly insignificant. Don't get me wrong, you can get better glass for $300, but if you want a lot better, you should budget a couple hundred more, in my opinion. A Conquest at around 400 would be a pretty good improvement, though.

I agree 100% with Ronk. I tested this very issue recently. You do not say what size the objective lens is. If it is a 40mm, then upgrading to a 50mm objective lens (front lens) would be a help. Stay with a 3-9 or 3-10, but go to a 50mm lens.
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A CONQUEST at $400.00 would be great alright the problem is everyone including SWFA has increased the price on the 3-9x40 Conquest to $450.00!
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$450 is the price for the 3-9 Conquest, the $399 price that we are all used to was the promotion that Zeiss was running for quite some time. Even at $450 it's hard to beat. What are you going to do, spend ANOTHER $30 and get a VX-3? Dead
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Welcome to OT
We will be happy to help you get the best BANG for your buck. If you haven't already established a firm ground to help you decide what best fits your shooting style and needs, I would say stick around and ask questions, learn, and then spend wisely. There are alot of very experienced people here with several years under their belts shooting in all the different shooting disciplines, some of us have particular brands that we like alot for various reasons. The bottom line is that different brands appeal to different users for different reasons. Do some reading, ask questions and we'll be happy to help in any way we can.
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thanks guys i aprecate the help but wont the higher power help me see beter becase i want to upgraid my scop and 9 power dont seam like enuff to help me with the longer shoots because i see better when im able to pick out a dear in the woods that is longer than 200 yards and if its dark the higer power wuold help me to see buck or doe and what is the difrence in the larger front bell an larger tube
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The larger tube will give you possible more adjusting ability, but has little to do with seeing a clearer picture. A larger objective lens allows more light through to your eye and will give better low light visibility. If you do not mind the bigger "bell" then go for it.
If you only intend hunting, then a 14X is probably maximum to go for. If you are going to target shoot off a rest, well why not go for whatever your budget permits. The only thing is you need a low end of at least 4, for close shots such as putting a wounded animal down.
Remember, on a variable scope there is all kinds of inbetween settings. If it is a 6-32, you can still set it on 12 or 14X. You need not shoot on 32X ever, but it is their if you need it. It will off course cost you money if you buy over spec. That is why we say go to about 14x. 
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thanx 8shots so yore sayin the biger tube wont make the target look more biger aswell an gathre more lite like they say biger tube more lite an picsure an all come thru an what is objetive lens u talk bout i dont no which lens this is but isnt biger lens make target look biger like if u use big magnefying glass an let in more lite im confus why u wodnt want more power cuz u can see beter when u see target biger thanx for yore help!Cool
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More power for sure does not mean you are going to be able to see better.  More power typically means you will loose quality of your image.  It is the same thing as when you keep zooming into a photo on your computer, eventually you get to close and start to loose quality of the image.  Same things will happen with optics to an extent.  Especially if you are using a cheap 24x scope.  Quality glass meaning more $$$ will allow you to have better images.  Take a $1000 quality scope with German glass in 3-9x and then take a 100 BSA that goes to 24x and I guarantee you will be able to see better with the 3-9x than you will with the 24x on 24 power.  Quality glass goes a long ways in optics. 
Personally if 250 yards is your max, 9x is plenty for that distance.  I shoot out to 1000 yards and just us 10x most of the time on my scope.  I feel that I get better quality images at that power which allows me to shoot better. 
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Not to mention the less possibility of mirage that goes with using higher powers. Supertool speaks the truth about glass quality helping alot.
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