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that's some amazing stuff
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 I wish the average deer hunter could shoot groups that size at one HUNDRED yards!

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Originally posted by 300S&W 300S&W wrote:

  
   Have ya heard?



Nice!!  Excellent  At that range I would think there's so many variables involved and to be able to do 10 shots in a row, 3" group, at 1000 yards, is truly amazing!!




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That 300 Weatherby is about as far from a factory gun as a Indianapolis 500 racecar is from a 4 door sedan you buy off a dealership lot.
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    But the fact that the cartidge was a std .300 Weatherby is what I'm liken.  For years the Weatherby cartidges have been maligned as to their accuracy and now that's been laid to rest.
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Wish I could do that!  But I think it is just fun shooting at those ranges.
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That's not possible.......Weatherby's have belted cartriges and freebore. They're hard to load for and not very accurate.......yada yada yada.Cool
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The article doesn't say if he had the rifle chambered with a short throat and chambered so that there was not much datum gap on the new cases.  Since it mentions that he had started with a jump of .018" and changed to .028", that says he had it chambered with a short throat.  Most Weatherby's have a jump close to .275" in order to fit the magazine and even if you try to load them out close to the lands for single shot function there is very little bullet left in the neck, not nearly enough.
 
Also the .339" throat is pretty generous but I'll bet he had already measured the Norma brass so that he had a tight clearance.
 
If you look at the case drawings
 
you can see that he had the shoulder moved forward, the radius shoulder changed to a flat one and the neck slightly lengthened.  More like a 300 Weatherby Magnum Ackley Improved.
 
I'm not bashing the 300 Wtby, just saying not a typical one and it is slightly misleading to call it one.
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John B  or one of the other writers had a Weatherby built on a different action and barrel with a short throat  and said it did not help or change much as to performance?
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  I read the same somewhere rl.  I'm questioning why the pic/specs of the Weatherby cartridge that is supposedly from Norma doesn't show a radius shoulder when at Midway both Norma casings and  Weatherby ammo show the radius shoulder.

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That is amazing.  Trigger, where is you 5" at 1k yard target?  What is the big hold up? Big Smile
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Originally posted by SD Dog SD Dog wrote:

That is amazing.  Trigger, where is you 5" at 1k yard target?  What is the big hold up? Big Smile
my 1K range is quite a ways from my house. I've just got my new load for my rifle out to 700, and figuring out where it will hit at ranges of 300 to 700. I hope to get out to the long range sometime this summer. I hope to get a target out at 700 and see how the groups look. Just been busting milk jugs so far.
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   Hey Sakomoto,
   I'm checking out some sources that say the pic of the casing in this thread:
    which is taken from Norma's web:
 
 is not representitive of the actual product and in fact the Norma brass used at the match did have the radius at the shoulder. I ran into a similar situation regarding scope reticles where the pic didn't match the product. Who would've thought!
 
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Hey 300
 
Lot's of conflicting information!  Argue
 
Who's to know except the shooter and his gunsmith.  I was surprised to see that Norma is actually marketing a case that is labeled 300 Wtby with different dimensions.
 
But, until convinced otherwise, I will hold judgment.  Also do believe that almost any long range caliber could have done the same thing with all the dollars spent, time, practice and preparation.
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I'm sure any long range caliber can do the same with the right preparation, and a highly accurized bench rifle. I do get tired of reading that Weatherby calibers, and guns are never accurate, and seeing the person who asked about them told to avoid them, as they will never be a shooter. Not saying I see that here, but it's out there. Just one of my pet peeves. Kind of like a 30-06 being an all around cartrige for anything in the U.S., and the .270 being too light for elk. I'd take a .270 elk hunting before I would an '06 myself.Big Smile
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  +1,Bob. 

   But just for some insight into the NORMA casing issue I did talk to a guy this morning whose been using NORMA .300 Weatherby casings for quite a while.  He says the shoulders are not a well defined radius and that in his production hunting rifle the casings headspace on the belt for the first firing.  He seems to think that it's possible the rifle used in the match  had the bbl set from the get go to headspace on the NORMA shoulder. 

   We'll probably never know. As you say only the shooter and gunsmith know for sure.

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All in all, not bad for the cartridge that has a belt and has a long magnum length action. 
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